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Well, I am not convinced that we should change the name. It is there since some many years. :-) However, we could improve the manual. For instance, it reads [1] =C2=ABA notable exception is the =E2=80=9Cbare-bones=E2=80=9D trivial-build-system = (see Build Systems).=C2=BB Then under =E2=80=9CBuild System=E2=80=9C section [2], this =E2=80=9Cbare-b= ones=E2=80=9D could be more explicit. For example, extend a bit its documentation [3]. Well, it will mitigate a bit the common =E2=80=9Ctrap=E2=80=9D about the mo= st non trivial build system. :-) 1: 2: 3: Cheers, simon