From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: myglc2@gmail.com Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <86372sdxz0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87inc0gzoz.fsf@elephly.net> <863732wf9z.fsf@gmail.com> <87efmm70re.fsf@elephly.net> <87r2qm3rfv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2qj1d6o.fsf@elephly.net> <87a7x31gm6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efD21-0003wu-9U for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:03:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efD1y-0004Ry-4v for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:03:37 -0500 List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, sirgazil On 01/24/2018 at 15:22 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hello! > > Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > [...] >> - The two sites should have separate Download sections. [...] > Agreed. > So I guess we should start working in that direction. [...] Hello Ludo=E2=80=99 and Ricardo, Before you build these two sites, how about considering a more unified approach? IMO this will be easier for users to understand and require less work. Using 'GuixE' to refer to everything in '(guix) Top' you could say: The GuixE software environment manager creates user environments that are completely and independently specified by users. GuixE users are never are stuck needing software that a Sysadmin can't, won't, or hasn't installed. A GuixE user can run multiple, differing environments simultaneously and can replicate any environment on any GuixE run-time platform. GuixE provides system-wide environment management when appropriate to the run-time platform. Creation, modification, and upgrade are atomic and roll-back is instantaneous, so GuixE users and sysadmins are never stuck with a broken user environment or system. GuixE implements a functional specification of package, user, and system configurations using the Scheme language. GuixE complies with the FSF Four Essential Freedoms and Free System Distribution Guidelines and provides easy and immediate access to the exact source being run. By default, GuixE uses pre-built package substitutes from the GuixE build farm and mirrors but users may build any package, or a complete system, from package developer sources. GuixE is available on multiple run-time platforms including bare metal (GuixSD), Virtual Machines (QEMU image), and any GNU/Linux distro (Guix Binary). A "product sales message" that goes with this looks like ... Introducing GuixE - the first software environment manager that solves the problems of both sysadmins and users of GNU/Linux: - sysadmin problems: - Because I have to modify the system to meet user needs and these are risky, I have to prototype every change on a test system - because system changes takes time, I can't keep up with user software requests and users are unhappy - Users request conflicting packages, so I can't make everyone happy - user problems: - I need software that sysops won't or hasn't provide - sysops changes stuff and my environment breaks - I need software that sysops can't provide because it conflicts with other user requirements WDYT? George [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html