From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org>
Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::])
	(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS
	id gFt1BHuM/GO5WAEAbAwnHQ
	(envelope-from <help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org>)
	for <larch@yhetil.org>; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:56:59 +0100
Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::])
	(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS
	id cLhfBHuM/GOUtQAAauVa8A
	(envelope-from <help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org>)
	for <larch@yhetil.org>; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:56:59 +0100
Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2972176D2
	for <larch@yhetil.org>; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:56:58 +0100 (CET)
Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com;
	dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=V93iLdzU;
	spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org";
	dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com
ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1677495418; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none;
	b=T6iKHfb1drSnIf8KoLlA+07I7oG+HoyKVIGH4VjeLp88wDHEbS4Um/Htlw6VL55b1jnJTi
	rkCxuZU2yCh64L3KlVB2crCiIcW6BPfmIHGb5RIKASRsVCUozGbFDJvpUMyJR3S+ARoahL
	zIK9gnh8q4TPzS2x/L0IP4aLQ4I32pXnkXOdMz3WRLdqeLno3PHKZsZo1DpiSPz+TM92PZ
	yGn52gxmnO9zU6nzyMlzGZTghnKZrDAf1N/WJgN8fZGnMieGikUttb0hceq4FHOeD2wqUp
	0wqCv7K7nWHSswrbkWxmTwpB0ZYr71h+suE6wOi2mMlMPLkMeULLa8D3X9pKmg==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1;
	aspmx1.migadu.com;
	dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=V93iLdzU;
	spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org";
	dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org;
	s=key1; t=1677495418;
	h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:
	 message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:
	 content-type:content-type:
	 content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:
	 in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help:
	 list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature;
	bh=R3wKKnlKw/gS5g0ikJ3TcDOYvMTol+HGmZ9t4Oh8sOo=;
	b=f5ryP8L5Obufq1if3Q0mq7p/co96acYlca3DAJzzzYVC6HIqrkbFMz21fRMvmpkVRY7A6q
	LnKDjxwRY+pbfqlfuUMkUKvKgpxx1rKAzYmGMKyCzFzqTvMK6/OvSfZysrufrWHCPHNX+e
	bYAxObxokVc2UXNwTqrrevi7lv2gzehJO6CUJMzs8kWCmfqcBGPJh8/YMacnES4dwCPeHa
	kyMqFHVALpeYTCROgwg/as9QmESd8wtztOjbdToJkrW8Sjc1u6ZVGC9RCIH0tnwr8cM8PV
	hBGNns1Zpc6yHoFEI1RRmVgB/m+sHm8Tm3KZBnyfjSgNnS5TbYt8NXpV1lW+DQ==
Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1)
	(envelope-from <help-guix-bounces@gnu.org>)
	id 1pWbAR-0008U7-Vz; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:55:40 -0500
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10])
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>)
 id 1pWbAO-0008TL-8H
 for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:55:37 -0500
Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::331])
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>)
 id 1pWbAK-0006cy-1g
 for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:55:35 -0500
Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id
 j19-20020a05600c191300b003eb3e1eb0caso2161753wmq.1
 for <help-guix@gnu.org>; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:55:31 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1677495330;
 h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references
 :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id
 :reply-to; bh=R3wKKnlKw/gS5g0ikJ3TcDOYvMTol+HGmZ9t4Oh8sOo=;
 b=V93iLdzUo0u+Ipl/9rfVitV+CsYdI9sxkksERjwTueiRPjFgoXw08O1nHRElK1pDTV
 UMCxD2IYMHqFAgUl5SbexVDpPX6xahurzQ8rjDLeNl8LA1nmhDDks28rE8IWhMk/x9zY
 Nf/dbyLAuDBbBZY4yRB3jw6KIGCMcpxMwAzldvbVIPM8kFdwEb3OXZJWUzDrsfjJNvGb
 k+qLSZsCWE/DgY7Y0mfuDPskhqoYOu2L8h+4X0AP8tIlbn5mIA0n2EKTVHkXUBxyaInd
 mEEmaMdJjf/zXNzTyC7zTeJfC8/53K7EsW7RvJYxI0HJ0T/U780mnJ7wGxXi1Dd5bpov
 ZA/Q==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1677495330;
 h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references
 :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc
 :subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
 bh=R3wKKnlKw/gS5g0ikJ3TcDOYvMTol+HGmZ9t4Oh8sOo=;
 b=Q/t5oFyBPv0QT2uRukWS8Gg6JMXJFibLm7HVpcpgmWpXiQ9k2hiozS3QLtiDrPHdU0
 RX+pVQvtoISBg7W1ErIUutEsg1wZ656qIsYCeCi+0Cv3G644wCLH9R4Bt52argoFsxK6
 zfN20ESAp7wTis6vj5FX7Ctte+5z6kpUo1oHEx9VeJhSJf/w1Saj0hjO2zPlfdpyqo71
 ctoMeIVJOit94OhYHRaVkSIkwqaPoMziuKwhREK8b5PZZkiHItTZ3+3UNW3Y3u5pB4b9
 3ZykO4xu+qaAKHozOXK6r/JPfrvIQvLtljjHsosXQQ6DrxgNpz0VbE/O2QltzU/rvWnq
 SWZg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUh2pm/+SeRL72Cnc1MYLlnJ6fEdnyKkktwWp2ClUzm+Cc2KoR+
 TljoAVlSYuCBC3THz/aLd3bu0jeGtSA=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+v1FCeTpAdeoxyWOHVHP3SOOACft+5fcIX8KuP/WERwcD6k/WpWE6NCgAYH9Dh4AEMztaqiw==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:c0a:b0:3eb:2e2a:be95 with SMTP id
 fm10-20020a05600c0c0a00b003eb2e2abe95mr6700812wmb.2.1677495330138; 
 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:55:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e])
 by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id
 az34-20020a05600c602200b003e6efc0f91csm8642035wmb.42.2023.02.27.02.55.29
 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256);
 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:55:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>, Rodrigo Morales
 <moralesrodrigo1100@gmail.com>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Newbie user question: What do the columns shown by "guix
 package -I" mean?
In-Reply-To: <87h6v8up7g.fsf@nckx>
References: <CAGxMbPafmUqP1brAvbnaYR4g8YmgUz362F7HF-BJ3Owh5uyKYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <87lekkur9w.fsf@nckx>
 <CAGxMbPYM3=-RtNq3fTFVydrjtmnq+AYYGJ3sOyjj4A1BB5J5bA@mail.gmail.com>
 <87h6v8up7g.fsf@nckx>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:53:31 +0100
Message-ID: <861qmbz8es.fsf@gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::331;
 envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com
X-Spam_score_int: -20
X-Spam_score: -2.1
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001,
 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001,
 SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: <help-guix.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-guix>,
 <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix>
List-Post: <mailto:help-guix@gnu.org>
X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E2972176D2
X-Spam-Score: -5.01
X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.01
X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com
List-Help: <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-guix>,
 <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org
Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org
X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN
X-Migadu-Country: US
X-TUID: fBz032w5xfFZ

Hi,

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 21:31, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> I, personally, would welcome breaking their scripts=E2=80=94in exchange=20
> for adding a =E2=80=98--format=3D<something machine-readable>=E2=80=99 op=
tion like=20
> we already do for =E2=80=98guix search=E2=80=99.  A real API that's actua=
lly=20
> reliable and supportable.  I think that's fair.

Well, that=E2=80=99s something I would like since a very long time.  Well, I
even probably started somewhere an extension as replacement.

By <something machine-readable>, do you mean some placeholders?


> I just think I'd be outvoted and don't feel like starting a fight=20
> :-)

That=E2=80=99s why extension. :-)  It would avoid the fight and in the same=
 time
it would help in designing such API allowing experimental breakage.

Well, I would also welcome this --format=3D<something machine-readable>. :-)

Cheers,
simon