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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id sh39-20020a1709076ea700b007c0e6d6bd10sm8184912ejc.132.2023.01.12.21.19.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:19:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84b1430354267a6db5c76c1470ab7e932924e2c3.camel@gmail.com> From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 06:19:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <87358rxgjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <325c0ef4-63ad-b45d-96ae-2cf248c37548@disroot.org> <871qoavyn2.fsf@gmail.com> <9336884519247fe7c9a9cf0d532eb8a79b954a7f.camel@gmail.com> <87358il4l0.fsf@gmail.com> <86sfgg1z6i.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1q8mcgq.fsf@xelera.eu> <4ad22b3194af69f3b8db5e471a1f4ced2118590f.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673587221; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dClUhFs1p5AKVSc2ZKCbkJIVdFULd6BbXECxI8CAA2uNjvjERSGrxW9rBGd+/g2zDlMYb1 ssygju2oXcNkm16Sh4/GuMvvFlUEo6ewjmrrH4eWGhNnuGY3ba6aurn6HFcipZ1EF4ba7g iw2IbK9qaeB1qpQMVE93jVmkGDQZSELnD7aH5KzWpI+dq+WkpUqFUj+SFsf+vaWf6Y84vB MGGaTQXRvv1PCsCm3Nf0JOJItlzu0kh+ynpVAVMqzNY+j95ZQH6ycYFctQJzBRj9YtAbwi HI5TvNRolK7UIzSPSqFP99PiVxNMIkOmznoqVm+IO06+i/ZYaV26YBYyQQtxyw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Pv3E7qAN; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673587221; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=g1DRk/PnyAJ8b9zgL/gNFMD8DEZ6Ith7gd/a4DvshtM=; b=tQ+/ASQt2mEAV7wGvySekeniuD2+OfWf57YbCt+hOVaGZBqE5Gfk7jE2MT6aLyTad/Rlax DVdlfjon4t+CR8aUwA14ozqulk6RUgmkr4qUBUiPeSzOtyEtdA6Eo1lz+5dtnWq4SeIoAu 0u6xDC+2HZr/sELOuErxLPmMd+yWVwX7d1BEoggfJIzb4udnG6nq0VlmAOizuX77oIQy0f uT1RwW67v560Sd4E+iwGi4tWwrqyd9daK4xIGw22zbs1qHpBgEQNrAGKdZLMlPKmTJErIK MfdsYlBYnYNIyj1kNQvcpkTUPPKfQdoSZ8zfUIgXDzg/UDC1YRrHNtJyWEP3dQ== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.00 X-Spam-Score: 1.00 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 217A140ED3 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Pv3E7qAN; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-TUID: OKbHPHf5UufA Am Donnerstag, dem 12.01.2023 um 18:07 -0500 schrieb Leo Famulari: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 09:29:09PM +0100, Liliana Marie Prikler > wrote: > > Now, I hope I'm not exaggerating when I say that most computer > > users use libarchive-based (un)archiving tools already. [3] > > Having observed this, I see little meaning in having a frontend, > > which per its name promises to open archives that their existing > > tooling can't handle, only to then reveal that it was the existing > > tooling all along.=C2=A0 If it didn't have the name that suggested it > > was able to do that, no one would expect it to, and upon > > encountering an archive that libarchive can't handle, they could go > > "well, fuck those rar guys, I have better things to do", or they > > could try and figure out what's wrong and contribute a fix (not > > that a fix is easily contributed given the nature of this bug, but > > somewhere along their journey they'd notice that rar is proprietary > > garbage and not fault libarchive too hard for not handling it).=C2=A0 > > Because unrar-free does have a name that suggests it's able to > > unrar those things, however, they will inevitably feel wronged no > > matter what and rather think "well, fuck unrar-free, I want > > unrar-nonfree". >=20 > In order to understand your points better, I'd like to summarize them > in my own words. Please tell me if I get it wrong. >=20 > Your objections to the inclusion of this package are that: >=20 > 1) We already have a package with equivalent functionality > 2) The name of this package, unrar-free, might lead users to choose a > nonfree program due to similarity. Concretely, the nonfree program is > called "unrar". >=20 > Is that correct? For the equivalence relation of "both being able to open the same archives", yes. Obviously, unrar-free has a different CLI =E2=80=93 that's= is whole shtick, after all =E2=80=93 but I'd argue that this doesn't matter, because the people who prefer CLI over GUI know how to read manpages. Cheers