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We should > reject such short package names in Guix unless there's a very compellin= g > reason to keep them. >=20 > The problem with single-letter package names is that the probability of= > collisions is far too high. Due to the so-called "birthday paradox", i= t > only takes 5 such package names before the probability of a collision > gets close to 50%. Given this, it's an act of extraordinary hubris to > claim a single-letter name for one's package. >=20 > We've already had at least one collision involving 2-letter names. It > takes 26 such names before the probability of collision reaches ~50%. = A > few years ago, someone wrote a tool based on Guile for "programmatic > computer-aided design" and called it "Ao". It turns out that name is > already taken by a cross platform audio library which is in Guix. >=20 > We have precedent for renaming single-letter package names in Guix. We= > have already changed "s" to "s-shell", and "v" to "vlang". Let's choos= e > a longer name for "t". Here's the package definition: Makes complete sense. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. :-) > Any suggestions for a longer name? Maybe "t-organizer" or > "t-todo-list-manager"? How about t-cli? @Jorge WDYT? Regards, RG. --ABz4udNDIwmcFkAmpidipsRZ4WXlHx2jL-- --rS1xQAm03RMPz6Q0VXg2v53y5O0A7hQTl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wnsEABYIACMWIQTNLV6qqYzLN9qR1rBfWBZkf4vlUQUCYEcJ9QUDAAAAAAAKCRBfWBZkf4vlUZhz APwJk0KBEuPMtPzETn+Bn6A5BCxvnE11ZJnVsukf9Fw9ygD7BBTaLOqAAH5HGUq3jpyE2D+qTN6G T1ROCjNvJgQ1dQ4= =J6cq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rS1xQAm03RMPz6Q0VXg2v53y5O0A7hQTl--