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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621372785; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=kCC9wmN0xBjQcEh08FqAX6OdtmFDWPBiCU/ArJKRGlI=; b=EbiduvYSSU7kizg1cLKaRaEkQfKdhwSDOAYkjbUgysjcOSs8JP7vT7o1FxYBblTuUF8Cf2 I6qXbkgfWIsJaP6YNw33O4N4VYY+2uNu26hN4XaHbmgQUeGtR02EUEL+rUmuGg6Rzcexw2 /O/6I+ZNXBp8QzzSwKF3ddc/Rk0cIGv3IjnkjS1hVw+1UskWh5bzSHFfEDiLH7dVTcoDAc jv2M71jFeqGvIqkz9NqU3JCCodkyXee8+CmqVeFshaOCkACOLKSzPclGUzJ6l86gMNQnXY QBInd9EUe9mRMiTz3Uix+1/NdhWyUHtesQWHuVDTCXSXnHKiI3aiEIqGYrHhiQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621372785; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CAqpnPGgtgCA50IQTIoDepC0Ot/ZB06KKpr3rFj91Y0S/T9FC8dzEt1mpU1cE7d79BAZUr uH3rCF+xyDw1evmu6+LbYLobuXwflBLg9YJaqSM81qGZi3+zyaOzoLtgHHZ7I/ctpW4Khh 8kKi3pA/Bp53z+/uHQA2zkKgFEBtHMXUBWpLVYe7iTWOE9OZLmd2Mheb/jPaCWOQyi1EsK hppYyq35OsoAVmvkfQJJp0O/CQaAus8fPVZPWKIN0e9Moj8HoHg9n2GQxIGop54NzgRVAC +emC/j/ca9K5D/Yv890dEQTN6dmT9HyTn7KPgoGnJpF5Cmywra5koucfdasrqg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b="muWC2F1 "; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=lepiller.eu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.34 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b="muWC2F1 "; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=lepiller.eu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 914EE1AE17 X-Spam-Score: -0.34 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: QZ0P98K7wN6A ------4X2MG99YW0XPB4IC9BV19HEI1Z8905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've rebuilt only up to python 3, and a handful pytgon packages, not a lot = more=2E I'm very confident for the one that enables optimisation, less so f= or the one that removes files (supposedly useless, like windows binaries an= d test files)=2E I'm go for both options, maybe python-update is more wise=2E Le 18 mai 2021 15:30:24 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari a = =C3=A9crit : >On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 02:08:50PM -0400, Julien Lepiller wrote: >> In the short term I'd like to merge the python optimisations=2E We >discussed it before release and thought it might be nice to merge them >before c-u, from a separate branch=2E > >+1 > >Have you tested them at all yet? If so, and they don't seem to break >anything, maybe they could be squeezed onto the wip-ungrafting branch=2E > >The 'ungrafting' jobset (based on the wip-ungrafting branch) entails a >complete rebuild of Python 2 and 3=2E If that branch requires another >iteration due to broken builds, and we are confident that the Python >optimisations won't break things, I'd say we could include them=2E > >Otherwise, we could do a python-updates branch that includes these >optimizations, and updates to Python 3=2E8=2E10, along with any existing >bug >fixes for Python 2=2E It would be completed more quickly than >core-updates=2E ------4X2MG99YW0XPB4IC9BV19HEI1Z8905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've rebuilt only up to python 3, and a handful py= tgon packages, not a lot more=2E I'm very confident for the one that enable= s optimisation, less so for the one that removes files (supposedly useless,= like windows binaries and test files)=2E

I'm go for both options, m= aybe python-update is more wise=2E

Le 18 = mai 2021 15:30:24 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari=2Ename> a =C3= =A9crit :
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 02:08:50PM -0400, Julien Lep=
iller wrote:
In the sho=
rt term I'd like to merge the python optimisations=2E We discussed it befor=
e release and thought it might be nice to merge them before c-u, from a sep=
arate branch=2E

+1

Have you tested them at all y=
et? If so, and they don't seem to break
anything, maybe they could be sq=
ueezed onto the wip-ungrafting branch=2E

The 'ungrafting' jobset (ba=
sed on the wip-ungrafting branch) entails a
complete rebuild of Python 2=
 and 3=2E If that branch requires another
iteration due to broken builds=
, and we are confident that the Python
optimisations won't break things,=
 I'd say we could include them=2E

Otherwise, we could do a python-up=
dates branch that includes these
optimizations, and updates to Python 3=
=2E8=2E10, along with any existing bug
fixes for Python 2=2E It would be=
 completed more quickly than
core-updates=2E
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