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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.22 X-Spam-Score: -6.22 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 12AAB7F4FE X-TUID: z75M7vmIvQuB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------uuo6PEn9ESwdzG8qSgeLRr1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Guix developers! I am not sure I am sending this to the right people, so I am sorry, if you are not the ones I should be sending this to. Here it goes: I tried responding to https://issues.guix.gnu.org/70211, by sending an e-mail to the 70211@debbugs.gnu.org address, as is stated on that page. However, whenever I send a reply to a debbugs address (this also happened in the past), I get a message back, that my e-mail was not delivered and something about TLS. Here is what I think might be the reason and I am asking you, whether I understand the issue correctly: I am guessing that debbugs does not support TLS and that I have somewhere configured to always send via TLS and then posteo tells me, that the target mail server does not support it. Correct? Or is it the Posteo server that demands TLS and debbugs does not offer it? Perhaps others have this issue as well and are unable to participate? Best regards, Zelphir -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:16:01 +0100 (CET) From: Mail Delivery System To: zelphirkaltstahl@posteo.de This is the mail system at host mout01.posteo.de. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. 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Hello Guix developers!

I am not sure I am sending this to the right people, so I am sorry, if you are not the ones I should be sending this to. Here it goes:

I tried responding to https://issues.guix.gnu.org/70211, by sending an e-mail to the 70211@debbugs.gnu.org address, as is stated on that page. However, whenever I send a reply to a debbugs address (this also happened in the past), I get a message back, that my e-mail was not delivered and something about TLS.

Here is what I think might be the reason and I am asking you, whether I understand the issue correctly:

I am guessing that debbugs does not support TLS and that I have somewhere configured to always send via TLS and then posteo tells me, that the target mail server does not support it.

Correct?

Or is it the Posteo server that demands TLS and debbugs does not offer it?

Perhaps others have this issue as well and are unable to participate?

Best regards,
Zelphir


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