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References: <20210618065416.22391-14-rg@raghavgururajan.name> <20210618065416.22391-24-rg@raghavgururajan.name> <9da322662c0eb0b552f9e2dbaebb8a71111754a2.camel@telenet.be> <89e3630c0059e508f1ba178ef147a4fc0541c5ac.camel@telenet.be> In-Reply-To: <89e3630c0059e508f1ba178ef147a4fc0541c5ac.camel@telenet.be> --j4GYcbRS9vQ6QXJKD9C9cijnVhvFUJdIo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Maxime! > This seems like a trademark disaster to happen ... > except that bitmask seems to have some kind of agreement with the VPN > providers (see https://bitmask.net/en#providers), so this =E2=80=98rebr= anding=E2=80=99 > is ok I guess. Yeah, the VPN provider configuration is done in source-code (i.e. before = compilation). The official bitmask source will only come with VPN=20 providers that LEAP (https://leap.se/) trusts and have understanding=20 with. But I'm not sure how it deals with users from modifying=20 source-code with custom VPN provider's branding. Since Guix distributes=20 the official source-code, we should be fine. > To make sure I got the terminology right: >=20 > =E2=80=98service provider=E2=80=99: gratis or paid provider for a virtu= al private network? Yes. > I don't see why one would tie software to a specific service provider? > Besides that the software needs to support the network protocols used > by the service providers of course. Bitmask is tied to, not one but multiple-providers. Current tie-ups=20 include RiseupVPN (https://riseup.net/en/vpn), CalyxVPN=20 (https://calyx.net/), and LibraryVPN (https://libraryvpn.org/). > I don't see _why_ bitmask would change the name of the application > depending on the service provider, but whatever I guess. I mean, > IceCat doesn't rename itself to =E2=80=98$ISP's Totally Secure Surfer=E2= =80=99, > e-mail clients don't rename theirselves to =E2=80=98$ISP MyMail=E2=80=99= , > depending on the Internet service provider. I had the same thought. Usually VPN providers have their own client. But = VPN providers who are non-profit/collective/etc, do not have=20 dev-resources to develop and maintain app. So the providers I mentioned=20 above, collaborate with bitmask. The bitmask project provides them the=20 opportunity to re-brand the client as if it was developed by the them.=20 This is white-labelling in a sense. :) Regards, RG. --j4GYcbRS9vQ6QXJKD9C9cijnVhvFUJdIo-- --AeIiNKWGndPxUacj44kh12eiC1b6G4r4L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wnsEABYIACMWIQTNLV6qqYzLN9qR1rBfWBZkf4vlUQUCYNFs0wUDAAAAAAAKCRBfWBZkf4vlURSs APwJQbcwGAG0t0XX6uqyu4WBXgg8W0gpfTtfK+3YvHP88QEAz2nzUCDm3lxHW+A3PvnB8M+7Rts4 kLqLfktpDXt/3Qc= =F1Ab -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AeIiNKWGndPxUacj44kh12eiC1b6G4r4L--