From: Luis Felipe <sirgazil@zoho.com>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>
Cc: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:33:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7169efc0-cd93-c7e0-e0f5-6bdf08db46e8@zoho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240621171524.4fe8bb13@fannys.me>
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El 21/06/24 a las 14:15, MSavoritias escribió:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:45:04 +0000
> Luis Felipe <sirgazil@zoho.com> wrote:
>
>> El 21/06/24 a las 10:44, MSavoritias escribió:
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:56 +0200
>>> Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 11:14:18AM +0300 schrieb MSavoritias:
>>>>> Aside from that even Guix uploading all code from the packages to
>>>>> SWH that basically feeds it to a LLM model is indeed not honoring consent of the author of the package.
>>>> Guix does not upload code to SWH. It gives them a pointer to a public git
>>>> repository that SWH then harvests or not according to their rules (see my
>>>> reply to Dale yesterday). These are not the same things at all.
>>> This is bikeshedding and arguing on schemantics. Guix gives them a url to download the source code from, so ultimately we (the Guix project) is responsible for the code showing up in there.
>>> Lets not argue over schemantics like this. It is even posted on their website in case you want to argue otherwise https://www.softwareheritage.org/2019/04/18/software-heritage-and-gnu-guix-join-forces-to-enable-long-term-reproducibility/
>> I think the differentiation between sending code and sending a URL is
>> necessary. Saying that Guix sends your code or your source files to SWH
>> leads people to think that Guix *will* transmit those files from your
>> local machine over the Internet to SWH machines when you run "guix lint
>> YOUR_PRIVATE_PACKAGE". And that's not the case, is it?
> But I didnt say that tho did I? the context you are reading as from the quote is Guix uploading all code from its packages to SWH.
> Not any private repos. So i have no idea what you are reffering to here tbh.
No, you didn't.
What I'm trying to say is that I don't think specifying what Guix
sends/uploads to SWH is "bikeshedding". For example, when you say "Guix
uploading all code from its packages to SWH", it's ambiguous to me. I
don't understand whether you are referring to the package definitions or
to the source files those packages refer to. And, if I understand
correctly, Guix doesn't upload any of these to SWH.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-21 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-18 8:37 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem MSavoritias
2024-06-18 14:19 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19 8:36 ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 17:00 ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 18:42 ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 20:54 ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 20:59 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20 21:12 ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21 8:41 ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-21 9:19 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:33 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:51 ` Exclude checker with package properties [draft PATCH] Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:37 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-21 18:44 ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:42 ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-22 15:54 ` Draft: dry-run + Exclude checker with package properties Simon Tournier
2024-06-20 21:27 ` Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Simon Tournier
2024-06-18 16:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 16:33 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18 17:31 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 17:57 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19 7:01 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 9:57 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-20 2:56 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-20 5:18 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:10 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21 8:39 ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 9:12 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 9:46 ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21 10:44 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:45 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 14:15 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 16:33 ` Luis Felipe [this message]
2024-06-21 17:04 ` Msavoritias
2024-06-21 16:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-06-21 16:51 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-21 17:22 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 20:51 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-22 15:46 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 17:55 ` Breath, let take a short break :-) Simon Tournier
2024-06-24 7:30 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24 10:23 ` Tomas Volf
2024-06-24 11:56 ` Lets cut this off Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21 17:25 ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-22 13:06 ` Richard Sent
2024-06-22 14:42 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 19:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-06-24 7:55 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24 9:13 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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