Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[jbranso]

Hello friends!

Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet 
at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST). That is one of the few days I 
usually have officially off, so I will meet you all with jitsi:

https://meet.jit.si/guix 
password: smoothsystem

I plan on meeting for at least an hour, but ya'll are welcome to attend
for a shorter or longer duration.

Feel free to come and chat about guix or ask any config questions. 
I'm perfectly happy to try to help you fix your current configuration 
issue.

The following Tuesday, August 3rd at 7pm UTC, let's do an unofficial 
guix hackathon/config party.  What service do you want?  What package?
What services are you having difficulty setting up?

I want to see gitile-service-type get merged personally.  It looks so 
beautiful!  How about a sway-service-type? opensmtpd-configuration record?
Let's talk about it then:

https://meet.jit.si/guix 
password: smoothsystem

If the guix room gets too noisy and crowded, we can always split it up.

Live long and prosper,

Joshua

Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Anadon]

I'll see about making it.  It is during my work hours.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:13 PM <jbranso@dismail.de> wrote:

> Hello friends!
>
> Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet
> at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST). That is one of the few days I
> usually have officially off, so I will meet you all with jitsi:
>
> https://meet.jit.si/guix
> password: smoothsystem
>
> I plan on meeting for at least an hour, but ya'll are welcome to attend
> for a shorter or longer duration.
>
> Feel free to come and chat about guix or ask any config questions.
> I'm perfectly happy to try to help you fix your current configuration
> issue.
>
> The following Tuesday, August 3rd at 7pm UTC, let's do an unofficial
> guix hackathon/config party.  What service do you want?  What package?
> What services are you having difficulty setting up?
>
> I want to see gitile-service-type get merged personally.  It looks so
> beautiful!  How about a sway-service-type? opensmtpd-configuration record?
> Let's talk about it then:
>
> https://meet.jit.si/guix
> password: smoothsystem
>
> If the guix room gets too noisy and crowded, we can always split it up.
>
> Live long and prosper,
>
> Joshua
>
>

Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Joshua Branson]

Anadon <joshua.r.marshall.1991@gmail.com> writes:

> I'll see about making it.  It is during my work hours.
>

Sorry.  I work second shift.  :(  Trying to find a time that I am free
is difficult.  

> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:13 PM <jbranso@dismail.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends!
>>
>> Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet
>> at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST). That is one of the few days I
>> usually have officially off, so I will meet you all with jitsi:
>>
>> https://meet.jit.si/guix
>> password: smoothsystem
>>
>> I plan on meeting for at least an hour, but ya'll are welcome to attend
>> for a shorter or longer duration.
>>
>> Feel free to come and chat about guix or ask any config questions.
>> I'm perfectly happy to try to help you fix your current configuration
>> issue.
>>
>> The following Tuesday, August 3rd at 7pm UTC, let's do an unofficial
>> guix hackathon/config party.  What service do you want?  What package?
>> What services are you having difficulty setting up?
>>
>> I want to see gitile-service-type get merged personally.  It looks so
>> beautiful!  How about a sway-service-type? opensmtpd-configuration record?
>> Let's talk about it then:
>>
>> https://meet.jit.si/guix
>> password: smoothsystem
>>
>> If the guix room gets too noisy and crowded, we can always split it up.
>>
>> Live long and prosper,
>>
>> Joshua
>>
>>

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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Vagrant Cascadian]

On 2021-07-22, jbranso@dismail.de wrote:
> Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet 
> at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST).

*EDT*, but otherwise looks pretty much right:

  $ date --utc --date='2021-07-27 19:00'
  Tue Jul 27 19:00:00 UTC 2021

  $ date --utc --date='2021-07-27 19:00' +%s
  1627412400

  $ TZ=US/Eastern date --date=@1627412400
  Tue Jul 27 15:00:00 EDT 2021

  $ TZ=US/Eastern date -R --date=@1627412400
  Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:00:00 -0400


Timezones are so confusing, best to "just" use the unix epoch. :)


Hope to join you sometime, though probably can't make it this time...


live well,
  vagrant

Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Akib Azmain Turja]

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Vagrant Cascadian writes:

> On 2021-07-22, jbranso@dismail.de wrote:
>> Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet 
>> at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST).
>
> *EDT*, but otherwise looks pretty much right:
>
>   $ date --utc --date='2021-07-27 19:00'
>   Tue Jul 27 19:00:00 UTC 2021
>
>   $ date --utc --date='2021-07-27 19:00' +%s
>   1627412400
>
>   $ TZ=US/Eastern date --date=@1627412400
>   Tue Jul 27 15:00:00 EDT 2021
>
>   $ TZ=US/Eastern date -R --date=@1627412400
>   Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:00:00 -0400
>
>
> Timezones are so confusing, best to "just" use the unix epoch. :)
>
>
> Hope to join you sometime, though probably can't make it this time...
>
>
> live well,
>   vagrant

The idea of using UNIX epoch is good.  But the command showed that it's
Wed, 28 Jul 2021 01:00:00 +0600 for me, so I can't attend.  Can you
change the time?  And, is that instance of Jitsi Meet free (libre)?


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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Joshua Branson]

Akib Azmain Turja <akib8492@gmail.com> writes:

> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
>
>> On 2021-07-22, jbranso@dismail.de wrote:
>
> The idea of using UNIX epoch is good.  But the command showed that it's
> Wed, 28 Jul 2021 01:00:00 +0600 for me, so I can't attend.  Can you
> change the time?  And, is that instance of Jitsi Meet free (libre)?

Perhaps in the future.  Is that super early in the morning for you?
Just curious.  :)

I can record the video if you like, though audio may be REALLY poor.

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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Joshua Branson]

Akib Azmain Turja <akib8492@gmail.com> writes:

> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
>
>
> The idea of using UNIX epoch is good.  But the command showed that it's
> Wed, 28 Jul 2021 01:00:00 +0600 for me, so I can't attend.  Can you
> change the time?  And, is that instance of Jitsi Meet free (libre)?

I believe it is...it's the official jitsi instance.

We could always meet at the official FSF jitsi instance, though I'm not
certain if they intend their instance to be a hang out instance...

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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Akib Azmain Turja]

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Joshua Branson writes:

> I believe it is...it's the official jitsi instance.
>
> We could always meet at the official FSF jitsi instance, though I'm not
> certain if they intend their instance to be a hang out instance...

I know FSF has an Jitsi instance for the associate members, but does FSF
has a public Jitsi instance?


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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[jbranso]

July 26, 2021 3:29 AM, "Akib Azmain Turja" <akib8492@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joshua Branson writes:
> 
>> I believe it is...it's the official jitsi instance.
>> 
>> We could always meet at the official FSF jitsi instance, though I'm not
>> certain if they intend their instance to be a hang out instance...
> 
> I know FSF has an Jitsi instance for the associate members, but does FSF
> has a public Jitsi instance?

I am an associate member.  :)  I could create the chat room and invite others
to join, so we could meet there.  However if I get called into work, someone
else will have to create the chat room.  

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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Joshua Branson]

Joshua Branson <jbranso@dismail.de> writes:

> Akib Azmain Turja <akib8492@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
>>
>>
>> The idea of using UNIX epoch is good.  But the command showed that it's
>> Wed, 28 Jul 2021 01:00:00 +0600 for me, so I can't attend.  Can you
>> change the time?  And, is that instance of Jitsi Meet free (libre)?
>
> I believe it is...it's the official jitsi instance.
>
> We could always meet at the official FSF jitsi instance, though I'm not
> certain if they intend their instance to be a hang out instance...

The hangout today was awesome!

I and other mysterious and extremely talented C developer discovered the
wonder of power9!

guix environment -s powerpc64le-linux coreutils --ad-hoc coreutils gdb

is a cool command that lets you create a guix binary that runs of
powerpc.  You can then use said guix binary in qemu!  Though it might
work faster if you had a power9 machine.

This talented and mysterious developer also mentioned that IBM does
provide power9 VMs that you can request access to, which would make the
debbugging process a little smoothier.  

I talked about my current email server and other things.  Hopefully we
will see more people next week!

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Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[Thiago Jung Bauermann]

Hello,

Em terça-feira, 27 de julho de 2021, às 17:54:16 -03, Joshua Branson 
escreveu:
> Joshua Branson <jbranso@dismail.de> writes:
> > Akib Azmain Turja <akib8492@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The idea of using UNIX epoch is good.  But the command showed that
> >> it's
> >> Wed, 28 Jul 2021 01:00:00 +0600 for me, so I can't attend.  Can you
> >> change the time?  And, is that instance of Jitsi Meet free (libre)?
> > 
> > I believe it is...it's the official jitsi instance.
> > 
> > We could always meet at the official FSF jitsi instance, though I'm not
> > certain if they intend their instance to be a hang out instance...
> 
> The hangout today was awesome!

It was!
 
> I and other mysterious and extremely talented C developer discovered the
> wonder of power9!
> 
> guix environment -s powerpc64le-linux coreutils --ad-hoc coreutils gdb
> 
> is a cool command that lets you create a guix binary that runs of
> powerpc.  You can then use said guix binary in qemu!  Though it might
> work faster if you had a power9 machine.

Thank you for the “extremely talented”. Not sure about that one. :-)

That is the command I’m using to investigate a test suite failure in the 
‘coreutils-final’ package reported by CI¹. It will bring in the coreutils 
build inputs as well as GDB. If you want a minimal environment you can use 
this smaller alternative:

$ guix environment -s powerpc64le-linux --ad-hoc coreutils

It assumes that you have binfmt configured to launch the QEMU user 
emulator. This happens automagically on Ubuntu (and I assume on Debian as 
well) if you install the ‘qemu-user-static’ package.

It also works for other systems such as armhf-linux and aarch64-linux.

> This talented and mysterious developer also mentioned that IBM does
> provide power9 VMs that you can request access to, which would make the
> debbugging process a little smoothier.

Indeed! IBM provides free access to powerpc64le VMs for people doing open 
source development:

https://openpower.ic.unicamp.br/minicloud/

I just noticed that there’s a Guix logo on that page, so I guess this isn’t 
news for you. :-)

> I talked about my current email server and other things.

That was very informative. Thank you!

> Hopefully we will see more people next week!

And thanks again for organizing the hang out! It’s a great idea.

-- 
Thanks,
Thiago

¹ https://ci.guix.gnu.org/build/692547/details

Re: Guix Hang Out Attempt 2 and an Unoffical Guix Hackathon/config party

[zimoun]

Hi Joshua,

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 21:12, jbranso@dismail.de wrote:

> Let's try to do another guix hang out next Tuesday, July 27th! We'll meet 
> at 7pm UTC. (I think that is 3pm EST). That is one of the few days I 
> usually have officially off, so I will meet you all with jitsi:

Cool!  Thanks for the initiative even if I am late to the party.  Maybe
next time.


All the best,
simon