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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.12 X-Spam-Score: -8.12 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C924124106 X-TUID: vVirP7DMEIyW Hi vagrant, On Sunday, March 10th, 2024 at 9:58 PM, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2024-03-10, Suhail Singh wrote: >=20 > > Vagrant Cascadian vagrant@debian.org writes: > >=20 > > > but "guix pull" does not update the running guix-daemon; > >=20 > > Just to be clear, however, if one were to do =3Dsudo -i guix pull=3D > > instead, followed by =3Dsystemctl restart guix-daemon.service=3D it /wo= uld/ > > update the running guix-daemon on Debian, correct? Or is that not the > > case? >=20 >=20 > No, out of the box guix-daemon is provided by the Debian guix package. >=20 That means the instructions to update the guix daemon in the manual, is incorr= ect or doesn't work? Or am I misunderstanding what you meant here? (I know in the past some discussions have come up about older guix-daemon o= n foreign distros, presumably because the packages there don't get updated = and a user wouldn't think to upgrade guix separately? But it seems you are = saying you can't upgrade without modifying the e.g. systemd service definit= ion? This is also important for security updates to guix itself, of course.= ) > > In other words, on Debian, does the systemd unit reference > > =3D/var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/current-guix/bin/guix-daemon=3D ? >=20 >=20 > But you could provide an override pointing at whatever guix-daemon you > want, of course! :) >=20 > Once you do that, you may as well remove the Debian packaged guix, > although users that have not yet run "guix pull" would need to guess > where to find guix, as there will be no guix on PATH. >=20 >=20 > live well, > vagrant