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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=DMXe+5Fh; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C897C2976C X-Spam-Score: 0.21 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: tklWV8fwo/A9 > I proposed you to write down these steps as a starting point for > improving the manual to turn it into a patch Will do that for next guix release hopefully. zimoun: > Hi, > > On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 16:51, bo0od wrote: > >> Fix the documentation as steps works for the end user as if he follow it >> 1 by 1 copy/paste (similar to nix docs as example), Otherwise current >> steps in the docs just junk to the end user. (you dont expect users to >> know and finish steps themselves) > > I proposed you to write down these steps as a starting point for > improving the manual to turn it into a patch (for the Manual or the > Cookbook); this is actionable. Otherwise say « improve this part of > the manual » is not constructive; this is not actionable. I (and > probably others) do not see what could be improved in this area so it > appears to me hard to improve something that I do not know what. :-) > > Last, the manual says: > > This option requires familiarity with GNU/Linux, with the shell, > and with common administration tools. If you think this is not > for you, consider using the guided graphical installer. > > > > Therefore, it appears to me expected that this section provides only > command hints and not one by one step to complete all the process. > Other said, I expect that user who does not know how to fully complete > will run the Graphical Installer. Does Nix have a Graphical > Installer? > > > All the best, > simon >