Hi! It was suggested I email this in by someone in the IRC channel. I'm having an issue where guix always tells me it is "X days old" and that I should run guix pull/guix upgrade. However, running these commands does not fix the issue. guix describe shows: ``` $ guix describe Generation 9 Mar 25 2021 08:36:11 (current) guix 3f1b2bd repository URL: branch: master commit: 3f1b2bd322b6cdba99a43d08e5e8464f7424cbc5 ``` Which is, indeed, out of date. IRC folks recommended checking the git status, so I did: ``` ~/.cache/guix/checkouts/pjmkglp4t7znuugeurpurzikxq3tnlaywmisyr27shj7apsnalwq (master) $ git status On branch master Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 474 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. (use "git pull" to update your local branch) nothing to commit, working tree clean ``` It is, indeed, out of date, but after a guix pull: ``` $ guix pull Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at ''... Building from this channel: guix 3f1b2bd Computing Guix derivation for 'x86_64-linux'... | nothing to be done ``` It doesn't update and still tells me I'm out of date: ``` $ guix upgrade guix upgrade: warning: Your Guix installation is 13 days old. guix upgrade: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by 'guix package -u' to get up-to-date packages and security updates. ``` It was suggested that I should run this command: ``` guix pull --commit=02297d3fe680371a4b97b9c1b770932cbdd55615 ``` and after doing so, I was then only 1 commit behind instead: ``` ~/.cache/guix/checkouts/pjmkglp4t7znuugeurpurzikxq3tnlaywmisyr27shj7apsnalwq (master) $ git status On branch master Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 1 commit, and can be fast-forwarded. (use "git pull" to update your local branch) nothing to commit, working tree clean ``` However, `guix pull` now gives me a new error about needing to downgrade: ``` $ guix pull Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at ''... guix pull: error: aborting update of channel 'guix' to commit 3f1b2bd322b6cdba99a43d08e5e8464f7424cbc5, which is not a descendant of 02297d3fe680371a4b97b9c1b770932cbdd55615 hint: Use `--allow-downgrades' to force this downgrade. ``` and for some reason, I'm back to being almost 500 commits behind again: ``` ~/.cache/guix/checkouts/pjmkglp4t7znuugeurpurzikxq3tnlaywmisyr27shj7apsnalwq (master) $ git status On branch master Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 477 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. (use "git pull" to update your local branch) nothing to commit, working tree clean ``` even though `guix describe` now seems to be more up-to-date (apr 7 instead or mar 25) ``` $ guix describe Generation 10 Apr 07 2021 14:38:16 (current) guix 02297d3 repository URL: commit: 02297d3fe680371a4b97b9c1b770932cbdd55615 ``` As a final attempt to solve this, it was suggested that I run `guix pull -l 2>&1 | tee pull-generations.log` and email it to this list. I'm attaching that file here. Also, after running that command, I'm back to being only 1 commit behind and still get the downgrade error from `guix pull`: ``` ~/.cache/guix/checkouts/pjmkglp4t7znuugeurpurzikxq3tnlaywmisyr27shj7apsnalwq (master) $ git status On branch master Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 1 commit, and can be fast-forwarded. (use "git pull" to update your local branch) nothing to commit, working tree clean ``` ``` $ guix pull Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at ''... guix pull: error: aborting update of channel 'guix' to commit 3f1b2bd322b6cdba99a43d08e5e8464f7424cbc5, which is not a descendant of 02297d3fe680371a4b97b9c1b770932cbdd55615 hint: Use `--allow-downgrades' to force this downgrade. ``` For now, I'm trying to avoid doing anything else guix-related, so that my system is in the same state and can hopefully be diagnosed and fixed.