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But, we > bite our tongues because Guix has a precedent of accepting freely > licensed programs that are minimally functionally and not malware. > Guix has had very liberal package acceptance criteria at least since > I joined, if not since it began, and changing this precedent should > require overwhelming consensus. >=20 > If there is a concrete objection (not conjecture or speculation) to > this patch based on the criteria of the FSDG and precedents of Guix > package acceptance, please share it. Otherwise, I think the patch > should be accepted. For what it's worth, Guix also has a precedent of including things that go against its own criteria due to reviewer oversight, be it bundled libraries, both as source and blobs, or actually non-free software. In my personal opinion, aiming to be a little more thorough doesn't hurt that much :)