From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:39:00 +0300 Message-ID: <5zkw22sb.321942__4287.31330191425$1570736006$gmane$org@gmail.com> References: <20191009065352.GU8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <1c9dc59c-0594-6921-73e8-b173e558b5c3@vapaa.xyz> <20191010023714.GK20430@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iIeAg-0005ob-0P for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:32:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iIeAe-0005c7-PF for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:32:21 -0400 Resent-To: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org Resent-Message-ID: <1rvkz9as.fsf@invalid> In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:14:16 +0000") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Jean Louis --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you move it offlist intentionally? If not, may I resend it back? Jean Louis wrote: > On October 10, 2019 11:39:42 AM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>= wrote: >>Jean Louis wrote: >>> * Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-09 23:13]: >>> - and then within that group there is now a hostile takeover group of >>people starting with Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and his "fellows" where none of >>them could answer my email to provide me with the facts about their >>statement. They are behaving against established implicit and explicit >>GNU guidelines, and so far nobody from FSF is enforcing any policy >>against them. They are danger to GNU project. >>> >>> My solution would be radical and simple: ask them to refrain damaging >>GNU project, or fork their software, and expell them from GNU project. >>> >>> AS SIMPLE AS THAT. Have you noticed, that your MUA produces quoting mess in attempt to hardwra= p lines while being unable to do that properly? As there is actually no po= int in hardwrapping lines, you=E2=80=99d better just disable it rather than= trying to fix. >>Wow! Ease off a bit! >> >>You might not noticed that, but today Guix is the most vivid part of >>GNU. And I could not image an action, that might cause more damage to >>GNU project, than urging Guix lead developers to leave. Even if you >>believe that forking software over political discord is good thing to >>do (despite it does not align well with the rest of your message), by >>all means, you would not able to outcompete them, so it would simply >>ended in Guix out of GNU. So it even more harmful than urging RMS to >>leave. After all, RMS is mortal and, alas, will leave us and GNU >>sooner or later, while Guix is not necessary. > > It is not harmful if Guix remains free software, how it can be? What the point of dubbing some free program an official GNU package nowaday= s? In other words, why such thing as GNU software still exists at all, whe= n impulse it gave 35 years ago was successful and free software is not rare= anymore? > It is only harmful for Guix. I do not see how it can be harmful for Guix. Not to say, that you are also= urging to oust, at least, Guile and GnuPG. > It was not my decision, it is theirs. Of course, it up to them, and I hope they have enough respect for GNU and R= MS heritage not to follow you strong advice. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE1yoTx9fONarixgNIydoJ3hnBsjAFAl2fJmQACgkQydoJ3hnB sjBzfggAs2zPIlCahOr7/wReN+62gySqIFq3iPrUnuTUYA4vBn/2djaCe2ggLYsY 3oHWZ6xu/u6w2v9qcPjuQ8VExAos2cM5rtkqP133W42EMlxtbHX3Rqj13wVcDGUV x1Z7RjDhTMMjUZ4GA2tpV4Re9Fj/lgBr8umaxgyRyg5w0P/DhLJTK2x77LyP6F7m PqSJkpFR65xGvKMnPKdqnfTKHgmoJGltwGOGJf9pavcJIVmUzMdAKBU6TRp88Eu8 XCpFpgQO105aG5rnpHV7vR507bhZJbb3bTBCoUvrQNW9myp+TH16KbX4n4QsOx/x zI11OkLhA5EEeAjFvNj5iS9PRjJReA== =u03A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--