* python general question (setup.py)
@ 2016-03-25 22:02 Nils Gillmann
2016-03-25 22:31 ` Cyril Roelandt
2016-03-25 22:39 ` Danny Milosavljevic
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From: Nils Gillmann @ 2016-03-25 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
I have a question on python.
My theory is that this is true:
If I write a setup.py and contribute it to a project because I
want to make an "easier"[1] install in Guix and elsewhere,
I feed the "one packagemanager per language" thing.
Is setup.py the equivalent of a package manager in python or does
it serve more purposes? I would like to know if I want to follow
my current task in either fixing the setup.py I started for the
upcoming bitmessage 0.6 release or if I want to write a Guix
package without using out python-setup-tools which require
setup.py to be present.
[1]: I already figured out how I could be just faster in writing
a Guix package rather than the ~60 lines of setup.py I already
have.
--
ng
personal contact: http://krosos.sdf.org
EDN: https://wiki.c3d2.de/EDN
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* Re: python general question (setup.py)
2016-03-25 22:02 python general question (setup.py) Nils Gillmann
@ 2016-03-25 22:31 ` Cyril Roelandt
2016-03-26 1:03 ` Nils Gillmann
2016-03-25 22:39 ` Danny Milosavljevic
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From: Cyril Roelandt @ 2016-03-25 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
On 03/25/2016 11:02 PM, Nils Gillmann wrote:
> I have a question on python.
> My theory is that this is true:
> If I write a setup.py and contribute it to a project because I
> want to make an "easier"[1] install in Guix and elsewhere,
> I feed the "one packagemanager per language" thing.
>
Not really. You can use setup.py without pip. Think of setup.py as some
kind of Makefile for Python.
> Is setup.py the equivalent of a package manager in python or does
> it serve more purposes? I would like to know if I want to follow
> my current task in either fixing the setup.py I started for the
> upcoming bitmessage 0.6 release or if I want to write a Guix
> package without using out python-setup-tools which require
> setup.py to be present.
>
No, the equivalent of a package manager is "pip", which uses packages
from pypi.python.org.
If we are talking about
https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions , I must say the
installation instructions are a bit weird for a Python project.
Cyril.
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* Re: python general question (setup.py)
2016-03-25 22:31 ` Cyril Roelandt
@ 2016-03-26 1:03 ` Nils Gillmann
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nils Gillmann @ 2016-03-26 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
Cyril Roelandt <tipecaml@gmail.com> writes:
> On 03/25/2016 11:02 PM, Nils Gillmann wrote:
>> I have a question on python.
>> My theory is that this is true:
>> If I write a setup.py and contribute it to a project because I
>> want to make an "easier"[1] install in Guix and elsewhere,
>> I feed the "one packagemanager per language" thing.
>>
>
> Not really. You can use setup.py without pip. Think of setup.py as some
> kind of Makefile for Python.
>
>> Is setup.py the equivalent of a package manager in python or does
>> it serve more purposes? I would like to know if I want to follow
>> my current task in either fixing the setup.py I started for the
>> upcoming bitmessage 0.6 release or if I want to write a Guix
>> package without using out python-setup-tools which require
>> setup.py to be present.
>>
>
> No, the equivalent of a package manager is "pip", which uses packages
> from pypi.python.org.
Ah, interesting. Thanks!
> If we are talking about
> https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions , I must say the
> installation instructions are a bit weird for a Python project.
Yeah, I'm not focused on bitmessage.org, but I suppose it's the
same.
https://github.com/mailchuck/PyBitmessage will soon be merged
into https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage , that's where I
try to work with to get away from using a git checkout.
> Cyril.
>
>
--
ng
personal contact: http://krosos.sdf.org
EDN: https://wiki.c3d2.de/EDN
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* Re: python general question (setup.py)
2016-03-25 22:02 python general question (setup.py) Nils Gillmann
2016-03-25 22:31 ` Cyril Roelandt
@ 2016-03-25 22:39 ` Danny Milosavljevic
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2016-03-25 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nils Gillmann; +Cc: guix-devel
Hi,
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 23:02:20 +0100
Nils Gillmann <niasterisk@grrlz.net> wrote:
> Is setup.py the equivalent of a package manager in python or does
> it serve more purposes?
Not at all. AFAIK, it's the equivalent of configure.ac / a Makefile.
pip is the package manager. There's
$ guix import pypi xxx
for generating a guix package definition from a pip package (from the package repository "pypi").
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