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Fair enough. > Two, because this libarchive should be split into 2 different > packages or outputs: one for the library itself and another for the > commands. >=20 > 1: Splitting libarchive outputs is sadly a core-updates change, but we could hide the existing one and add a user-facing one with the split if that's what you desire. I don't think adding a package for just the tools has merits. > However, if a table containing what these utilities do seems > appropriated, here the description from the Debian package > =E2=80=99libarchive-tools=E2=80=99: >=20 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > The bsdtar program is the default system 'tar' program used on > FreeBSD. bsdtar uses the libarchive library as a backend which does > all of the work for reading and writing archives in various formats. >=20 > The bsdcpio program is the default system 'cpio' program used on > FreeBSD. bsdcpio uses the libarchive library as a backend which does > all of the work for reading and writing archives in various formats >=20 > The bsdcat program reads archived data from files or from its > standard input and uses the libarchive library to decompresses it to > its standard output. It may be used for viewing the contents of > archives or for passing it to other tools for further processing. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I think these could be shortened as follows: This package/the 'bin' output also provides @itemize @item @command{bsdtar} and @command{bsdcpio} to pack/unpack archives like @command{tar} and @command{cpio} respectively, and @item @command{bsdcat} to concatenate files like @command{cat} does, while transparently unpacking archives. @end itemize WDYT?