From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>,
Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: Martin Becze <martin@becze.org>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware?
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:37:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <549c5a13356c88758351ada5682da6843adde107.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
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Attila Lendvai schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 08:00 [+0000]:
> the vast majority of the taxes are not taken from the wealthy,
> but from the masses. the well-connected easily pays for the
> marginal cost of the tax consultants, lawyers, judges, offshore
> entities, and whatnot... and ultimately buy/corrupt the entire
> political system.
If these wealthy evade taxes, wouln't they, after a transition from
public funding to private funding, just keep hoarding the money for
theirselves and not fund anything? I don't see how eliminating taxes
here would make these corrupt wealthy more likely to pay taxes/fund
things.
If it's all private, no mechanism remains to extract money from these
wealthy. If it's public, then even if it's partially corrupt, at least
a portion of their wealth would be extracted.
Additionally, there are efforts underway to at least in-part eliminate
off-shore constructions and other tax evasion schemes. E.g., I forgot
the name, but there was some proposal for a world-wide lower bound on a
certain kind of tax. And in e.g. Belgium there's a ‘Dienst Bijzondere
Belastingsinspectie’ dedicated to ‘structured combat against fraud’,
and the ‘Federale Overheidsdiensten Financiën’ apparently has recovered
€110,69 * 10^9 in 2020 [0] (or maybe 2019-2020, these reports appear to
be made every two years).
Greetings,
Maxime.
[0] https://www.2020.jaarverslag.financien.belgium.be/index-nl.html
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-04 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-20 10:05 Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 10:48 ` Tobias Platen
2022-02-20 11:13 ` Martin Becze
2022-02-20 16:52 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 20:39 ` Martin Becze
2022-02-24 9:23 ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24 11:18 ` Martin Becze
2022-02-25 0:27 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-25 12:41 ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 13:04 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-02-25 16:14 ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 16:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-25 16:49 ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-25 17:05 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-25 17:35 ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-25 19:00 ` Leo Famulari
2022-04-04 8:00 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04 9:43 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:15 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 12:49 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04 10:16 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:37 ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-04-04 11:22 ` indieterminacy
2022-04-04 18:39 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24 9:13 ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24 9:36 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-20 11:08 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 11:27 ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 11:34 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:19 ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 16:47 ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 17:47 ` Semantics of circular imports Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:12 ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-27 14:19 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:33 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:55 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-28 4:24 ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-30 4:50 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-28 13:17 ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 18:50 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31 4:54 ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-05-31 8:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31 10:23 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 15:54 ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 16:14 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:20 ` Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 12:37 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 12:44 ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 14:59 ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 18:53 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-20 20:34 ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-02-20 12:32 ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-20 18:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 19:36 ` Ryan Sundberg
2022-02-21 9:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-21 13:06 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-21 18:56 ` raingloom
2022-02-21 23:02 ` Attila Lendvai
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