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Message-ID: <532f5b62-c5c3-4aa5-867e-ebe2dbecc848@benwr.net> Feedback-ID: 7118633:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.22; envelope-from=root@benwr.net; helo=mail-4022.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:54:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.40 X-Spam-Score: -1.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CF6F36173F X-TUID: NJJvZgo582MF Hello! I'm fairly new to using Guix System, and I have a lot of questions. One is: Is it possible to run a shepherd user service at system start,=20 rather than at login? My guess is that this is at least possible, by defining a system-level=20 service that starts a shepherd for each user. Would that work? Anyone have tips on how to go about building this, if so? Especially:=20 What's the easiest way to ensure that a guix service knows the list of=20 users-with-login-shells on the system? And easiest way to run a=20 `shepherd` instance as each such user on startup? I'm working on writing=20 a service definition, but as this is my first from-scratch service (guix=20 or shepherd), and one of my first lisp projects since reading SICP 15=20 years ago, it's slow going (even with the reference manual and source=20 code of other services). And, of course, is there a simpler way? (I also asked this question on the r/guix subreddit, but haven't heard=20 anything yet, and figured I'd ask here too)