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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j15-20020a1709062a0f00b00a269fdda581sm1334866eje.74.2024.01.09.11.29.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4df155dc8b0b34107aeaba57a1d1593a2a08112f.camel@gmail.com> From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 20:29:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <12ef074c9aeeb94459a4791ca4d095c368ebdf89.camel@planete-kraus.eu> References: <271383e7dfc7e1beecc0fcebe533f94e9da4d499.camel@planete-kraus.eu> <47e607ee3184584dea2ab23ca0d517fa44b7076f.camel@gmail.com> <12ef074c9aeeb94459a4791ca4d095c368ebdf89.camel@planete-kraus.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4DF0D236C9 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-TUID: IfF/jJw0CA2w Am Dienstag, dem 09.01.2024 um 12:10 +0100 schrieb Vivien Kraus: > Dear Guix, >=20 > [...] I know that a bunch of packages have reasons not to exist in Guix, I simply wanted to point out that we don't have them. > > I think we should settle on what to do with the gnome package soon > > to not stall the branch even further.=C2=A0 We can already start workin= g > > towards GNOME 46 after the merge :) > In my opinion, we should have atkmm:2.28.3, but I see atkmm-2.28 > being used as a propagated-inputs for gtkmm-3, and gtkmm-3 is an > input for inkscape. That=E2=80=99s a world rebuild=E2=80=A6 >=20 > For Cantarell fonts, maybe we should point to the latest commit? > That=E2=80=99s another world rebuild though, and for very little gain as = of > now. >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not sure a flatpak-only gnome software is a hard requirement.= It > would be most confusing. Gnome-tour is nice, but I think we can live > without it until we figure out this =E2=80=9Crust=E2=80=9D stuff. With "the gnome package" I mean the gnome metapackage that made you raise this issue. > > There is some gnome-adjacent software (particularly extensions, I > > don't want all of them to break like they did the last time and the > > time before) to have a look at as well before the merge >=20 > You mean, the gnome-shell-extension-* in (gnu packages gnome-xyz)? I > don=E2=80=99t use them (I was told they were frequently broken so I never > bothered to try them!) so I=E2=80=99m not sure I can reliably tell whethe= r > they work correctly. They tend to get broken with each gnome update, but I'm here to change that. Testing them is actually quite simple: construct a guix system vm with a gnome that has all the extensions, run it, then enable all of them one by one in the GUI. If there's a version incompatibility, you will notice. Cheers