From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hartmut Goebel Subject: Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4a584d0b-a2c4-8a0a-90c0-64aa051392e1@crazy-compilers.com> References: <87r2p2xudf.fsf@gmail.com> <87po3slnvb.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f02ma-0005nb-Ul for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:21:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f02mW-00087g-0W for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:21:48 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:41006) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f02mV-00083i-Ps for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:21:43 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408CxK5r8Dz1qskF for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408CxK5mGvz1qwkN for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8yxV_lPqrcQM for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermia.goebel-consult.de (ppp-93-104-176-236.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.176.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.110.2] (lenashee.goebel-consult.de [192.168.110.2]) by hermia.goebel-consult.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6ED360B4C for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 12:21:40 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87po3slnvb.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: help-guix@gnu.org Am 25.03.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Chris Marusich: > As Ludo mentioned elsewhere, using a dongle is one good option. What > prevents you from using a dongle? Why should I punish myself just for to says "Hey, I'm using only free software"? This benefits nobody! [1] Please don't get me wrong: free software is to be preferred and we should push users and vendors towards it. But if for any reason one owns a device demanding non-free firmware, using e.g. a dongle would not benefit anybody.[1] The vendor already has the money. In contrary: buying a dongle adds to environmental pollution and sweating in poor countries. The only thing we achieve is distracting users from free software since it "doe not work". [1] Given that you basically "trust" the non-free software. Bu if you don't, you'll not going to use it anyway. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |