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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 20:26:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878rzv16lv.fsf@nckx> To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice References: <20210903132427.29dfb907@mailbox.org> <87bl59bii7.fsf@nckx> <20210917112742.3bc15e7f@mailbox.org> <878rzv16lv.fsf@nckx> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) Received-SPF: none client-ip=91.134.227.199; envelope-from=guix.gnu.org-p@trilingual.eu; helo=mail.trilingual.eu X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:16:54 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1631985440; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=COVSYZiVSJDswDihX+03aqBqJo/PAZ6v2Jd4rQwVneE=; b=gFm02VaeMgOczkRc2Vi7WkD1DJabo2fyLEpWhiWDgP/+M4Cvq8FZWLRbuVwqhYbDjKovzc 0KWrHyBxqfuzxaY8KvA43rq2eqm3QjidY0RlgMFtDr8mOyn/CiNBLiynGPc+n80ayhyEx2 6ZcwmJK3IQpTuYc0G0l0aDSXVWsT5ogKgKH3HNHNOqG8jqOYGfmZy51wBPCVQ/EnyWYShx JtbtXgnHUdV5RNgEFRvVAB9qVSNKhE+OL3pktjKdOIJ35bVsnhbCq8pnQEscYihicVOqws c2Glx7W4bkhTPI1s1E85PaTBKuUi1Cx6z5XjrggVBb6pY1kwvwqUjQrum2Lbuw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1631985440; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jt015CRWJWXP5oG3xP88cGWtVQmQt8PwIO+gw2efbEbMAIgD8Gj2XrcDafUwYuKiR3ADbJ uEZ/Nwku1ZnOgHJQdq9EB45eIoDN90hR5qMjrvp0AnOz0KIJlryEh3BTXm0FJitqt8PWt8 AsqfxfLgcSdmal0zxVKyZ4iGc5fefPsuud1FA2zluoZP4vXCfisAQ4b0VS0Ys8m20rxO9v Jp/eAh8fRZ3xMlAG+WmQmL7v/thkCFfLlQu02sAE6BStH52BJjKPBEhvpzEGjWoa9yv2XK HNXVfcFMAQgz4L+8zHA69/u3KrBbbAfu0iznk4qLRfq0yCmqJ+6Fdtacnoc9iQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=trilingual.eu header.s=2017 header.b=HKebQW5m; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=trilingual.eu header.s=2017 header.b=HKebQW5m; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3635DA4B2 X-Spam-Score: 1.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /R0hXRVEuWzR What do you think about merging both entries of the manual in the main = menu of the page and let it display a page in this vein: NU Guix Reference Manual This document is available in the following languages: | language | current ("developer") | Version (1.3.) ("stable") = | = |----------+---------------------------+----------------------------------= --| | Deutsch |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/de/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/de/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/de/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/de/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/de/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/de/guix.pdf][PDF]] | | English |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/guix.pdf][PDF]] | | Espa=C3=B1ol = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/es/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/es/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/es/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/es/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/es/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/es/guix.pdf][PDF]] | | fran=C3=A7ais = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/fr/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/fr/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/fr/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/fr/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/fr/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/fr/guix.pdf][PDF]] | | =D1=80=D1=83=D1=81=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B9 = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/ru/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/ru/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/ru/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/ru/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/ru/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/ru/guix.pdf][PDF]] | | =E4=B8=AD=E6=96=87 = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/zh-cn/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/zh-cn/guix.html][HTML (single = page)]], [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/zh-cn/guix.pdf][PDF]] = |[[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/zh-cn/html_node][HTML]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/zh-cn/guix.html][HTML (single page)]], = [[https://guix.gnu.org/manual/zh-cn/guix.pdf][PDF]] | * If you computer is already running Guix, running `info guix` is = probably the best way to read the current documentation * If unsure, the "stable" documentation is probably not the one you = are looking for * You might also want to download the = [[https://guix.gnu.org/guix-refcard.pdf][Guix reference card]] * Or have a look at the cookbook, accessible via `info guix-cookbook` = or [[https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/][online]]. It contains tutorials, how-to guides and examples contributed by the = Guix community which show you how to use the system and its collection = of packages to achieve common and not-so-common goals users may have. * There is also a [[https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix][wiki]] & = [[https://guix.gnu.org/en/videos/][videos]] * If you need help, there are the IRC, the mailing lists and their = archives available at = [[https://guix.gnu.org/en/contact/][guix.gnu.org/en/contact]]=20 =20 ? Am I right in assuming that the stable version of the manual is only = useful before the first pull? Is there a way to display the reference card on the system without = grabbing the pdf? And: it would be nicer if the orientation of the pages = in the pdf was rotated Kind Regards, Pascal > On 17. Sep 2021, at 18:47, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: >=20 > Matthew Brooks =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> Thanks! I didn't realize there were two versions of the manual, and = had been checking the stable one. >=20 > This state is extremely confusing and should be improved. How did you = search/browse to the =E2=80=98stable=E2=80=99 manual? >=20 > More generally: why did you end up loading a browser to look for the = manual on the Web, instead of consulting the one on your Guix machine? = Were you aware of it? Would you have seen a warning at the top of the = page, or did you click straight through to a section/chapter? Consider = this low-budget telemetry to find out how better to point users to other = options ;-) >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > T G-R