* [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le
2021-08-16 19:46 [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
@ 2021-08-17 12:42 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2021-08-17 14:22 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-17 22:51 ` Maxime Devos
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From: Mathieu Othacehe @ 2021-08-17 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann; +Cc: 50081
Hello,
> + ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64le* yet.
> + (if (string-prefix? "powerpc64le"
> + ,(or (%current-target-system)
> + (%current-system)))
Do you think we could use the "target-powerpc?" procedure from (guix
utils) here?
Mathieu
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le
2021-08-17 12:42 ` Mathieu Othacehe
@ 2021-08-17 14:22 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-17 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mathieu Othacehe; +Cc: 50081
Hi Mathieu,
Thank you for the quick review.
Em terça-feira, 17 de agosto de 2021, às 09:42:53 -03, Mathieu Othacehe
escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> > + ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64le* yet.
> > + (if (string-prefix? "powerpc64le"
> > + ,(or (%current-target-system)
> > + (%current-system)))
>
> Do you think we could use the "target-powerpc?" procedure from (guix
> utils) here?
‘target-powerpc?’ would also match 32-bit PowerPC. LuaJIT does support that
platform, but I couldn’t find out – and can’t test – whether the LuaJIT TeX
engines do as well.
Since ‘texlive-latex-base’ doesn’t exclude 32-bit PowerPC, I’d suggest
doing the same for ‘texlive-texmf’ as well. But I don’t have a strong
opinion about it.
If you think it improves the code, I can use
“,(and (target-powerpc?) (target-64bit?))"
NB: I forgot to mention that this patch is for core-updates-frozen.
--
Thanks,
Thiago
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le
2021-08-16 19:46 [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-17 12:42 ` Mathieu Othacehe
@ 2021-08-17 22:51 ` Maxime Devos
2021-08-18 2:53 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-18 2:55 ` [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64* Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-20 0:47 ` [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v3] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Maxime Devos @ 2021-08-17 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann, 50081; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe
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Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via schreef op ma 16-08-2021 om 16:46 [-0300]:
> LuaJIT isn’t ported to powerpc64le. ‘texlive-latex-base’ already disables
> them, so just do the same in texlive-texmf.
>
> Fix suggested by Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>.
>
> * gnu/packages/tex.scm (texlive-texmf)[arguments]<#:phases>{texmf-config}:
> Disable LuaJIT engines when building for powerpc64le.
> ---
>
> Hello,
>
> This fixes the build of ‘texlive-texmf’ on powerpc64le. It was failing
> with these errors:
>
> fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajittex due to missing engine: luajittex
> fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajithbtex due to missing engine: luajithbtex
>
> Thank you very much to Mathieu for his help in making this work.
>
> gnu/packages/tex.scm | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/gnu/packages/tex.scm b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> index 70166941d554..3c0b87352a10 100644
> --- a/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> +++ b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> @@ -6821,9 +6821,17 @@ directly generate PDF documents instead of DVI.")
> (share (string-append out "/share"))
> (texmfroot (string-append share "/texmf-dist/web2c"))
> (texmfcnf (string-append texmfroot "/texmf.cnf"))
> + (fmtutilcnf (string-append texmfroot "/fmtutil.cnf"))
> (texlive-bin (assoc-ref inputs "texlive-bin"))
> (texbin (string-append texlive-bin "/bin"))
> (tlpkg (string-append texlive-bin "/share/tlpkg")))
> + ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64le* yet.
Does that mean LuaJIT _is_ ported to powerpc64be (big endian)?
> + (if (string-prefix? "powerpc64le"
> + ,(or (%current-target-system)
> + (%current-system)))
If not, then this should be (string-prefix? "powerpc64" ...).
Admittedly, Guix doesn't support powerpc64be ...
Greetings,
Maxime.
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le
2021-08-17 22:51 ` Maxime Devos
@ 2021-08-18 2:53 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-18 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maxime Devos; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, 50081
Hello Maxime,
Thanks for your review!
Em terça-feira, 17 de agosto de 2021, às 19:51:15 -03, Maxime Devos
escreveu:
> Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via schreef op ma 16-08-2021 om
16:46 [-0300]:
> > diff --git a/gnu/packages/tex.scm b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> > index 70166941d554..3c0b87352a10 100644
> > --- a/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> > +++ b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
> > @@ -6821,9 +6821,17 @@ directly generate PDF documents instead of
> > DVI.")
> >
> > (share (string-append out "/share"))
> > (texmfroot (string-append share
> > "/texmf-dist/web2c"))
> > (texmfcnf (string-append texmfroot "/texmf.cnf"))
> >
> > + (fmtutilcnf (string-append texmfroot
> > "/fmtutil.cnf"))>
> > (texlive-bin (assoc-ref inputs "texlive-bin"))
> > (texbin (string-append texlive-bin "/bin"))
> > (tlpkg (string-append texlive-bin
> > "/share/tlpkg")))
> >
> > + ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64le* yet.
>
> Does that mean LuaJIT _is_ ported to powerpc64be (big endian)?
No, LuaJIT is ported only to 32-bit PowerPC.
> > + (if (string-prefix? "powerpc64le"
> > + ,(or (%current-target-system)
> > + (%current-system)))
>
> If not, then this should be (string-prefix? "powerpc64" ...).
Ok, I will send a v2 with this change.
> Admittedly, Guix doesn't support powerpc64be ...
AFAIK powerpc64be is considered legacy nowadays.
--
Thanks,
Thiago
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64*
2021-08-16 19:46 [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-17 12:42 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2021-08-17 22:51 ` Maxime Devos
@ 2021-08-18 2:55 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-18 10:39 ` Efraim Flashner
2021-08-20 0:47 ` [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v3] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-18 2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 50081; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos, Thiago Jung Bauermann
LuaJIT isn’t ported to 64-bit PowerPC. ‘texlive-latex-base’ already
disables the engines that rely on it, so just do the same in texlive-texmf.
Fix suggested by Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>.
* gnu/packages/tex.scm (texlive-texmf)[arguments]<#:phases>{texmf-config}:
Disable LuaJIT engines when building for powerpc64le.
---
Hello,
This fixes the build of ‘texlive-texmf’ on powerpc64le. It was failing
with these errors:
fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajittex due to missing engine: luajittex
fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajithbtex due to missing engine: luajithbtex
Thank you very much to Mathieu for his help in making this work.
Changes since v1:
- Match target with “powerpc64” prefix rather than “powerpc64le”.
gnu/packages/tex.scm | 8 ++++++++
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
diff --git a/gnu/packages/tex.scm b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
index 70166941d554..900438ecacd9 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/tex.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
@@ -6821,9 +6821,17 @@ directly generate PDF documents instead of DVI.")
(share (string-append out "/share"))
(texmfroot (string-append share "/texmf-dist/web2c"))
(texmfcnf (string-append texmfroot "/texmf.cnf"))
+ (fmtutilcnf (string-append texmfroot "/fmtutil.cnf"))
(texlive-bin (assoc-ref inputs "texlive-bin"))
(texbin (string-append texlive-bin "/bin"))
(tlpkg (string-append texlive-bin "/share/tlpkg")))
+ ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64* yet.
+ (if (string-prefix? "powerpc64"
+ ,(or (%current-target-system)
+ (%current-system)))
+ (substitute* fmtutilcnf
+ (("^(luajittex|luajithbtex|mfluajit)" m)
+ (string-append "#! " m))))
;; Register SHARE as TEXMFROOT in texmf.cnf.
(substitute* texmfcnf
(("TEXMFROOT = \\$SELFAUTOPARENT")
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64*
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@ 2021-08-18 10:39 ` Efraim Flashner
2021-08-19 4:51 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2021-08-18 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, 50081, Maxime Devos
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We now have a target-ppc64le? option which should be useful here.
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64*
2021-08-18 10:39 ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2021-08-19 4:51 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-19 6:52 ` Efraim Flashner
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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-19 4:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner, 50081, Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos
Em quarta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2021, às 07:39:21 -03, Efraim Flashner
escreveu:
> We now have a target-ppc64le? option which should be useful here.
Yes, that’s a nice code improvement. But unfortunately it’s mutually
exclusive with Maxime’s request to match against “powerpc64*”.
If people think the ‘target-ppc64le?’ alternative would be better than the
“powerpc64*” one, I can send a v3.
--
Thanks,
Thiago
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64*
2021-08-19 4:51 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
@ 2021-08-19 6:52 ` Efraim Flashner
2021-08-20 0:41 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2021-08-19 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, 50081, Maxime Devos
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:51:56AM -0300, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
> Em quarta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2021, às 07:39:21 -03, Efraim Flashner
> escreveu:
> > We now have a target-ppc64le? option which should be useful here.
>
> Yes, that’s a nice code improvement. But unfortunately it’s mutually
> exclusive with Maxime’s request to match against “powerpc64*”.
>
> If people think the ‘target-ppc64le?’ alternative would be better than the
> “powerpc64*” one, I can send a v3.
IMO since powerpc64-linux isn't an actually supported architecture in
Guix we can ignore it for now and focus on powerpc64le. As far as
powerpc, as I'm the only one using it (I believe) you can pretty much
treat it like mips64el; try not to affect it unnecessarily but no
testing needed.
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2021-08-19 6:52 ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2021-08-20 0:41 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-20 0:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, 50081, Maxime Devos
Hello Efraim,
Em quinta-feira, 19 de agosto de 2021, às 03:52:26 -03, Efraim Flashner
escreveu:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:51:56AM -0300, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
> > Em quarta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2021, às 07:39:21 -03, Efraim Flashner
> > escreveu:
> > > We now have a target-ppc64le? option which should be useful here.
> >
> > Yes, that’s a nice code improvement. But unfortunately it’s mutually
> > exclusive with Maxime’s request to match against “powerpc64*”.
> >
> > If people think the ‘target-ppc64le?’ alternative would be better than
> > the “powerpc64*” one, I can send a v3.
>
> IMO since powerpc64-linux isn't an actually supported architecture in
> Guix we can ignore it for now and focus on powerpc64le.
I agree with you. I’ll send a v3 then.
> As far as powerpc, as I'm the only one using it (I believe) you can
> pretty much treat it like mips64el; try not to affect it unnecessarily
> but no testing needed.
Ok, thanks.
As an aside, I tried building a powerpc64le kernel with CONFIG_COMPAT set
to see if it would allow running 32-bit binaries but it fails during
linking. The 32-bit support feature apparently bit-rotted.
--
Thanks,
Thiago
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* [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v3] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le
2021-08-16 19:46 [bug#50081] [PATCH] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64le Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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2021-08-18 2:55 ` [bug#50081] [PATCH core-updates-frozen v2] gnu: texlive-texmf: Disable LuaJIT engines on powerpc64* Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
@ 2021-08-20 0:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-22 11:19 ` bug#50081: " Efraim Flashner
3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-20 0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 50081
Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos, Efraim Flashner,
Thiago Jung Bauermann
LuaJIT isn’t ported to 64-bit PowerPC. ‘texlive-bin’ and
‘texlive-latex-base’ already disable the engines that rely on it, so just
do the same in texlive-texmf.
Fix suggested by Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>.
Also, for consistency use ‘target-ppc64le’ in ‘texlive-bin’ as well.
* gnu/packages/tex.scm (texlive-bin)[arguments]<#:configure-flags>: Use
‘target-ppc64le’.
(texlive-texmf)[arguments]<#:phases>{texmf-config}:
Disable LuaJIT engines when building for powerpc64le.
---
Hello,
This fixes the build of ‘texlive-texmf’ on powerpc64le. It was failing
with these errors:
fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajittex due to missing engine: luajittex
fmtutil [ERROR]: not building luajithbtex due to missing engine: luajithbtex
Thank you very much to Mathieu for his help in making this work.
Changes since v2:
- Use ‘target-ppc64le?’ to match target string.
- Change ‘texlive-bin’ to also use ‘target-ppc64le?’.
Changes since v1:
- Match target with “powerpc64” prefix rather than “powerpc64le”.
gnu/packages/tex.scm | 9 +++++++--
1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/gnu/packages/tex.scm b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
index 4500f1929264..9ec015482808 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/tex.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/tex.scm
@@ -339,8 +339,7 @@ files from LOCATIONS with expected checksum HASH. CODE is not currently in use.
"--with-system-zlib"
"--with-system-zziplib"
;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64le* yet.
- ,@(if (string-prefix? "powerpc64le" (or (%current-target-system)
- (%current-system)))
+ ,@(if (target-ppc64le?)
'("--disable-luajittex"
"--disable-luajithbtex"
"--disable-mfluajit")
@@ -6829,9 +6828,15 @@ directly generate PDF documents instead of DVI.")
(share (string-append out "/share"))
(texmfroot (string-append share "/texmf-dist/web2c"))
(texmfcnf (string-append texmfroot "/texmf.cnf"))
+ (fmtutilcnf (string-append texmfroot "/fmtutil.cnf"))
(texlive-bin (assoc-ref inputs "texlive-bin"))
(texbin (string-append texlive-bin "/bin"))
(tlpkg (string-append texlive-bin "/share/tlpkg")))
+ ;; LuaJIT is not ported to powerpc64* yet.
+ (if ,(target-ppc64le?)
+ (substitute* fmtutilcnf
+ (("^(luajittex|luajithbtex|mfluajit)" m)
+ (string-append "#! " m))))
;; Register SHARE as TEXMFROOT in texmf.cnf.
(substitute* texmfcnf
(("TEXMFROOT = \\$SELFAUTOPARENT")
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@ 2021-08-22 11:19 ` Efraim Flashner
2021-08-22 22:49 ` [bug#50081] " Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2021-08-22 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos, 50081-done
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I took out the unrelated patch to texlive-bin and pushed the part for
texlive-texmf.
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2021-08-22 11:19 ` bug#50081: " Efraim Flashner
@ 2021-08-22 22:49 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2021-08-23 6:19 ` Efraim Flashner
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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via @ 2021-08-22 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner, 50081, Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos
Hello Efraim,
Em domingo, 22 de agosto de 2021, às 08:19:48 -03, Efraim Flashner
escreveu:
> I took out the unrelated patch to texlive-bin
Ok. Do you think it’s worth submitting that part separately, or is it just
unnecessary code churn?
> and pushed the part for texlive-texmf.
Thank you!
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Thanks,
Thiago
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2021-08-22 22:49 ` [bug#50081] " Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
@ 2021-08-23 6:19 ` Efraim Flashner
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2021-08-23 6:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, Maxime Devos, 50081-done
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 07:49:45PM -0300, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
> Hello Efraim,
>
> Em domingo, 22 de agosto de 2021, às 08:19:48 -03, Efraim Flashner
> escreveu:
> > I took out the unrelated patch to texlive-bin
>
> Ok. Do you think it’s worth submitting that part separately, or is it just
> unnecessary code churn?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Thiago
>
I'd leave it and wait for it to get touched the next time. Its like
removing the trailing #t in core-updates, when we're already doing
something to the package is a good time to make the change.
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