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In-Reply-To: References: <20f4092ec72d874c753ec7dd1cdbf085262ad759.camel@riabenko.com> Message-ID: <247d89b5f50a733299f4f135d68b04a4@posteo.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=gottfried@posteo.de; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.11 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 970226C65B X-Spam-Score: 2.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: M8NfwEhqCiKc =20 Am 11.01.2024 17:52 schrieb Gottfried:=20 > thanks very much. >=20 > Unfortunately my new company didn't allow me to choose a mobile phone but= they gave me immeadiately a Samsung phone with Android and all sorts of ba= d things like Google, whats app and so on. >=20 > This company is spread worldwide and all the workers are connected with c= ertain programms on this phone. The ID department is sitting in London/UK a= nd they installed some security apps etc. on this phone. Laptop and phone i= s connected.=20 >=20 > I have to live with it and use it only for my work.=20 > Privately I use at the moment an old phone only for SMS, to be reachable = via SMS.=20 >=20 > Gottfried >=20 > Am 09.01.2024 20:44 schrieb Roman Riabenko:=20 >=20 > Hi Gottfried >=20 > =D0=A3 =D1=87=D1=82, 2023-12-21 =D1=83 11:42 +0000, Gottfried =D0=BF=D0= =B8=D1=88=D0=B5: > which mobile phone would You support with which free software?=20 >=20 > I have been using a Librem 5 device for the last five months. However, > I only needed phone calls, SMS messages, and XMPP chats via Dino. I > also developed a habit of constantly charging it with a portable > battery. The call quality is average, but the device was reliable. >=20 > It comes with PureOS, which is one of the FSF-approved GNU > distributions. The caveat is that the cellular modem and the chip > require some non-free firmware: > https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked- [= 1] > Questions#18-what-is-respects-your-freedom-certification-and-how-close- > is-the-librem-5-to-getting-it . > I am sorry, my question is not about Guix, but about free software.=20 >=20 > There have been some efforts to make the Guix System work on Librem 5. > I am learning to install a distribution on it and potentially test > something for Guix. If anyone here has any suggestions, I am open to > any experiments! I have noticed that Purism uses some development tools > for flashing that are missing in Guix. > Or is there a website or a forum which would be able to help?=20 >=20 > If your question is still relevant, you may want to take a look at > https://forums.puri.sm/c/hw/l5/ [2] . The authors own various mobile > devices, not only from Purism, and are eager to tell about it. Beware > that some focus more on what they perceive as security rather than on > freedom. > I will hopefully get a job and I need a mobile phone for it.=20 >=20 > It depends on your job expectations. I have a separate phone for > clients who demand me to use non-free software for communication. > However, if you need only a phone number, you do not necessarily need a > smartphone. >=20 > Roman =20 Links: ------ [1] https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked- [2] https://forums.puri.sm/c/hw/l5/