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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -1.36 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 86ED9783EE X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.36 X-TUID: EAENPpDUEKMT On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:45:04 +0000 Luis Felipe wrote: > El 21/06/24 a las 10:44, MSavoritias escribi=C3=B3: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:56 +0200 > > Andreas Enge wrote: > > =20 > >> Am Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 11:14:18AM +0300 schrieb MSavoritias: =20 > >>> Aside from that even Guix uploading all code from the packages to > >>> SWH that basically feeds it to a LLM model is indeed not honoring con= sent of the author of the package. =20 > >> Guix does not upload code to SWH. It gives them a pointer to a public = git > >> repository that SWH then harvests or not according to their rules (see= my > >> reply to Dale yesterday). These are not the same things at all. =20 > > This is bikeshedding and arguing on schemantics. Guix gives them a url = to download the source code from, so ultimately we (the Guix project) is re= sponsible for the code showing up in there. > > Lets not argue over schemantics like this. It is even posted on their w= ebsite in case you want to argue otherwise https://www.softwareheritage.org= /2019/04/18/software-heritage-and-gnu-guix-join-forces-to-enable-long-term-= reproducibility/ =20 >=20 > I think the differentiation between sending code and sending a URL is=20 > necessary. Saying that Guix sends your code or your source files to SWH=20 > leads people to think that Guix *will* transmit those files from your=20 > local machine over the Internet to SWH machines when you run "guix lint=20 > YOUR_PRIVATE_PACKAGE". And that's not the case, is it? But I didnt say that tho did I? the context you are reading as from the quo= te is Guix uploading all code from its packages to SWH. Not any private repos. So i have no idea what you are reffering to here tbh. MSavoritias