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Message-ID: <20240322011628.0d04d1eb@primary_laptop> In-Reply-To: <78917b534de9fdfb8a908ba63f40e46273f63c9d.camel@gnu.org> References: <20240316020307.6bf7335c@primary_laptop> <87y1ad6qwa.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <68cbc4d6df99ce863b782bb7b3aad2ff29e98c37.camel@a-lec.org> <78917b534de9fdfb8a908ba63f40e46273f63c9d.camel@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.37; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/JyQZAfkd4Nj6ADpqjQpssLD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=80.67.179.20; envelope-from=GNUtoo@cyberdimension.org; helo=gnutoo.cyberdimension.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.08 X-Spam-Score: -1.08 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A2B8338932 X-TUID: YYssyTP5GUEN --Sig_/JyQZAfkd4Nj6ADpqjQpssLD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:35:25 +0100 Adrien 'neox' Bourmault wrote: > Sorry, I did not see earlier this was a question Denis asked. I > measured that recently and did not have the time to tell him. Thanks > for your answer. Thanks a lot for the test.=20 The issue here is also that a given measure is very important as it gives some indication, but I'm also not sure that 2GiB is enough with all the situations. For instance a user with a browser and tons of open tabs may need more RAM for Guix. This is also why my initial plan was to ask many people to test, but I then figured out that it was probably best to ask Guix users and contributors first as they might already a precise enough value that we could use, or have insight on if what I am trying to do is a good idea or design. 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