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If in some one to five years we still find no > practical way of using ScummVM with only free software, that might be > a reason to remove it then. >=20 > WDYT? That looks perfectly fine to me. It leaves some time to people to try to fix ScummVM itself in a better way (like by packaging games built from source like Draci Historiae, removing the checksums, making a hello world, etc), and at the end ScummVM would get removed if it's not fixed. 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