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On +2022-10-27 10:35:02 -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hi, > (Oops, pasting back alternative I thought would be faster) > > So above combo command line now gives me > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > SIZE MODEL TYPE TRAN VENDOR NAME > > 465.8G Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB disk nvme nvme0n1 > > > > 01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981 > > $ > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- [...] --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > $ lsblk -o size,model,type,tran,vendor,name|grep -Ei 'ssd|model';echo;lspci |grep -i nvme > SIZE MODEL TYPE TRAN VENDOR NAME > 465.8G Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB disk sata ATA sda > 931.5G Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1TB disk sata ATA sdc > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Building Rust is mostly CPU dependent; I think fast single thread > performance is key as not that much happen in parallel, IIRC. The 3900X > is a 12 cores (24 logical) beast. > Hm, just TRAN sata, no nvme, so it's going to be slow, but what is the effect on what you timed? Is there an easy way to get a measure of how many GB went through those SATA channels during what you timed? That would give an idea of what faster phusical disk memory access would do for you. If many people are waiting longer that they like, maybe they would chip in to fund an upgrade, to feed that 12(24)-core "beast" :-) I'd bet it is waiting a lot, if not more than computing :) -- Regards, Bengt Richter