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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.34 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b="SpR 6iOs"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A3DA2CA32 X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: iIlCtS2dp7dS On Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:27:47 -0400 Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, > > zimoun writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 23:49, Morgan Smith wrote: > > > >> I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a > >> large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably > >> just openBSD propaganda). > > > > Guix documentation uniquely relies on ’sudo’. And for instance, I was > > not aware of such propaganda. :-) > > > > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the top > > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a > > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) > > > > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using ’sudo’ > > should also provide the ’doas’ way. And I am not convinced the burden > > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. > > I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be > used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). FWIW, I use doas on Debian and alpine linux was considering replacing sudo with doas ;() But, yes. This is low priority for me right now so that's fine to close it :) I may experiment with doas in a guix channel instead. ps Here's the arch wiki page on doas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Doas Some memey resources of questionable merit on doas: https://www.techwarrant.com/alpine-linux-wants-to-replace-sudo-command-with-openbsds-doas/ https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=brXd12LstgA https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=A5buxcYXp7k