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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=oPhzb6+F; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=oPhzb6+F; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CD52F38FEA X-Spam-Score: -6.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 0YJM7w+FY0HX (reply is at bottom) On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:29:54 +0000 C=C3=A1ssio Tavares wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:40 AM raingloom wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 20:40:07 +0000 > > Gottfried wrote: > > =20 > > > As I understood I should do a "guix pull" every week. > > > > > > But what is with "guix package -u" > > > When I did it two days ago it took 6 hours. I couldn't swich off > > > my laptop. So I can do it only when having a lot of time. > > > Normally it took approx. 30 min > > > If I don't need always the latest version, I can do it once a > > > month or once in two month > > > Is that okay? =20 > > > > I'd recommend just skipping the few packages that take too long to > > build. > > Before upgrading, run guix package --upgrade --dry-run, and see what > > would be downloaded and what would be built locally. > > If there is something too large there, use the --do-not-upgrade > > flag. It can be given multiple times. > > > > Also sometimes the reason something is built locally is because its > > derivation failed on the substitute server, and I think it kinda > > sucks that the user doesn't get warned about that, because building > > half of Firefox just to see it fail with the same error message as > > it did on the server is a huge waste of electricity, and also my > > time.=20 > > > Do I have to do a "sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm" > > > always after the "guix package -u"? > > > Can I do it every month or every second month? when I don't need > > > the latest version of packages? > > > > > > Gottfried > > > =20 > > > > I solve the latter by having a very lean system profile, only the > > bare essentials are installed for the whole system, things like the > > window manager are only in my user profile. > > > > =20 > If your window manager is only in your profile, then it won't be > available for the display manager's login. Is there a workaround for > that? C=C3=A1ssio > ----- > Faculdade de Letras - UFG > *=E2=80=9C* > *Ou a gente se Ra=C3=B4ni, ou a gente se Sting**=E2=80=9D* >=20 >=20 Possibly. This might be a good starting point: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Display_manager#Session_configuration That requires a modification to /usr, which seems like a bad idea. Maybe someone else can figure out the details, I don't have time to do a deep dive right now. Sorry for editing your reply, but as the old joke goes: Because it's messing up the reading order. >Why? >>Please stop top-posting.