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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1649061772; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=TfhJLv804PwTAcmduMLhpxyVbBFofAI6i2ow/zkQ6gI=; b=hxqeGxiEIMfBg5JtqkM2DDk83J739TVSWXdNnSm1Fhym+5JHeKnZJggXIEGgYdX509VKp3 GkUgagjriB4z/231pGQQI+mL+8nqm8soznEOFMOxkGy3fPqaKjaAx6Ui5MZz5Zsl763fEW 4JU7fASbo3gC6wlU573ffLZG7P8LwaSCQ/zHBB3QpfFV7PnKIM9ccKIyunht0N+xMyM9Ya AvPL9UTEdowwaE5V7xClHhx0w43mYxA1emebAaH7og1ghvV36QwkGlgHNmx67qCz/Dky7C xNA1Kp14wJ4f2+ZU3xLKK2c31kDTyVZ/gG0vW9Cx12ejEWL/4b+thAVG5od5HQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1649061772; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=It6d74CQIuUgwdNQnPH+CnNcR/sqoJ+t2v/1JYzAUDfh+JP/d+9EJc20SD3ipafKRxQgbt BM7P2T0i45FzJ/ysyKYY2yNmgJNjP1LNncQO387s1M19KxGBBjT41kz1sifdnhtumJULvQ 6VXl9s6QQ6liSBofUNo2c2CuE/lJNSeSCMiHz9SPNwAbil3JlgiaYnmFrWSHduNfeQ+YOv IRzdcLf971aJ07k9ulrA4lreSYe8m9BrRiDJLbwl6TLCGZ3NMWYhoxuWSuKNmYzoN1sbjn jkHJep4V1bDaIyyB31VcTBWQOFgM+dDtC8EmxI6CEvIb8Y9Ng7xAPh3man7kfg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=pelzflorian.de header.s=mail header.b=gGOXdapd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=pelzflorian.de header.s=mail header.b=gGOXdapd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4C23D3AF15 X-Spam-Score: 1.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 9V7S+Ki1mPhE On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 06:59:33PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > You can test it on Guix System with: > > guix time-machine --branch=wip-shepherd-upgrade -- \ > system reconfigure … On my 2010 Macbook Pro (with hard disk, not using SSD), boot time to GDM got a few seconds slower/faster from 3:08--3:22 minutes to 3:19--3:20 minutes. (Faster old boot times are a few days old; seems to vary with temperature or phase of the moon or something. So it is maybe not slower at all or maybe even 2 seconds faster.) I’m using none of the new Shepherd features; no sshd and no childhurds nor secrets service, just desktop services and GNOME. But still the new Shepherd is the right thing to do, I think. Regards, Florian