From: raingloom <raingloom@riseup.net>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: File search
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:46:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220122054613.4c09367e@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735lh5ukw.fsf@inria.fr>
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:03:43 +0100
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hello Guix!
>
> Lately I found myself going several times to
> <https://packages.debian.org> to look for packages providing a given
> file and I thought it’s time to do something about it.
>
> The script below creates an SQLite database for the current set of
> packages, but only for those already in the store:
>
> guix repl file-database.scm populate
>
> That creates /tmp/db; it took about 25mn on berlin, for 18K packages.
> Then you can run, say:
>
> guix repl file-database.scm search boot-9.scm
>
> to find which packages provide a file named ‘boot-9.scm’. That part
> is instantaneous.
>
> The database for 18K packages is quite big:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ du -h /tmp/db*
> 389M /tmp/db
> 82M /tmp/db.gz
> 61M /tmp/db.zst
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> How do we expose that information? There are several criteria I can
> think of: accuracy, freshness, privacy, responsiveness, off-line
> operation.
>
> I think accuracy (making sure you get results that correspond
> precisely to, say, your current channel revisions and your current
> system) is not a high priority: some result is better than no result.
> Likewise for freshness: results for an older version of a given
> package may still be valid now.
>
> In terms of privacy, I think it’s better if we can avoid making one
> request per file searched for. Off-line operation would be sweet, and
> it comes with responsiveness; fast off-line search is necessary for
> things like ‘command-not-found’ (where the shell tells you what
> package to install when a command is not found).
>
> Based on that, it is tempting to just distribute a full database from
> ci.guix, say, that the client command would regularly fetch. The
> downside is that that’s quite a lot of data to download; if you use
> the file search command infrequently, you might find yourself
> spending more time downloading the database than actually searching
> it.
>
> We could have a hybrid solution: distribute a database that contains
> only files in /bin and /sbin (it should be much smaller), and for
> everything else, resort to a web service (the Data Service could be
> extended to include file lists). That way, we’d have fast
> privacy-respecting search for command names, and on-line search for
> everything else.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Ludo’.
>
One use case that I hope can be addressed is TeXlive packages. Trying
to figure out which package corresponded to which missing file was a
nightmare the last I had to use LaTeX.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-22 5:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-21 9:03 File search Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-21 10:35 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2022-01-22 0:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-21 19:00 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-22 0:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-22 2:53 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-01-25 11:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-25 11:20 ` Oliver Propst
2022-01-25 11:22 ` Oliver Propst
2022-01-22 4:46 ` raingloom [this message]
2022-01-22 7:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-24 15:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-24 17:03 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-02 16:14 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-05 11:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-25 23:45 ` Ryan Prior
2022-02-05 11:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-06 13:27 ` André A. Gomes
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-12-02 17:58 antoine.romain.dumont
2022-12-02 18:22 ` Antoine R. Dumont (@ardumont)
2022-12-03 18:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-04 16:35 ` Antoine R. Dumont (@ardumont)
2022-12-06 10:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-06 12:59 ` zimoun
2022-12-06 18:27 ` (
2022-12-08 15:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-09 10:05 ` Antoine R. Dumont (@ardumont)
2022-12-09 18:05 ` zimoun
2022-12-11 10:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-15 17:03 ` Antoine R. Dumont (@ardumont)
2022-12-19 21:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-19 22:44 ` zimoun
2022-12-20 11:13 ` Antoine R. Dumont (@ardumont)
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