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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Bengt Richter Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Sarah Morgensen Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1630835464; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=w6n4Po/piiVanzSCBrJ1VwHKeGBEB3d1dlXSR7qqsyY=; b=SXEYumPPTdskz9l5dAyqHwtX08/SbPLU0ietUtgFzJ5Te4QmFeRnVXbhsKdEN/J8ZC1WT0 L5fyGux24DNPn5UgR1yAcg8b5/qXcWnukW4AApSGXpSZpv3slYjM3kZRM7zSQxZHvbpCUi WOkU/GG1QvF339AAFQIBaKrt6tvfqhWQcOSsw98KHF3TEqEoY2/Keobiqlk3O61+yUZaC9 2ITc5MVi8wb9KE0jLRReuhKyUlmsq/HW4LvC1aXOroaViNmDtsUWMmSFvzwiGU5B/IIHXn X05PGiRn69bJYhsHUVE3968/UXEXcS3Vu+fZoTmIGt9K9MaKo23TdorWX3fEjA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1630835464; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OxLbD5NU5C0nfNJjTg5VoQ59M8XAsdMgvRXHEFRgz/8YPJ9MTPBGgaKVwyf0mHaJiuBQSK FahBJL5lJJAA+JmcwV+vne0v4TGlM92T9FHIMnHJKC4nU9fGBawZ/cP5RqXRwXf+TmW8q3 gT+QrvvnZVupE5T37Q7qpWE166IVthnTebz0GTmUv+h3phcMVev1Ep9OCxSTmUwF/TX2X7 z5gZ2YoTIAwnHqxK+6oT29DnudS1cgqx14R0E7vcAAzWP1YPxCtYgt+SUOcU6BdzDGxku8 apaFoUXyN9/76ZZggi7jrzeG+rPMfiR4yiBvrmuVp8McDofOD4tneCJ5GXLONQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5B6B320E43 X-Spam-Score: -0.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: HvpMSSDIu81W Hi, On +2021-09-05 09:36:30 +0200, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Samstag, den 04.09.2021, 17:50 -0700 schrieb Sarah Morgensen: > > Hi Liliana, > > > > (Efraim, I've Cc'd you since you're working on re-doing Rust inputs.) > > > > Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > > > > > Does anyone have an idea how we should handle propagations for the > > > sake of pkg-config? Perhaps we could add "linked-inputs", which > > > are added when building packages and environments when not using -- > > > ad-hoc, but not when union-building profiles. WDYT? > > > > I know nothing about pkg-config, but such an input would help > > simplify things for Go (and I think for Rust) since many inputs need > > to be propagated only at build-time. > To be fair, I wasn't not thinking about Go and Rust, which at least on > the surface appear to have similar propagation semantics. I do however > not know whether all currently propagated inputs from those two could > be reclassified as linked-inputs. FWIW I don't think (most) Emacs, > Python or Guile packages work that way, but I do know of at least one > that would profit from having linked-inputs. > > > What do you think of "build-propagated-inputs"? > We don't call things build-inputs here in Guix land, that's a no-no :P > Is there an official guix jargon file or glossary file or texi file or wikimedia/wiktionary/wikipedia clone on gnu.org that non-cognoscenti could use to get a clue? Is there a thread that on that topic making any progress on making it happen? when someone in a thread like this offers a candidate official definition, (off-topic sort of, but meta-on-topic for relevant documentation) could it be snip-quoted for easy search and aggregation for maintainers of official definitions and translations? E.g. (or actually borrow some rfc0842 or descendant so an attached file generates a usuable section in mail archives that can be snarfed automatically?) --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- X-Content-type: Cadidate-guix-jargon-definition Ad lib comment and metacomment ended by blank line ... "> We don't call things build-inputs here in Guix land, that's a no-no :P" build-propagated-inputs: --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > (A quick search of the ML turned up one previous discussion [0]; does > > anyone know of others?) > > > > [0] > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-02/msg00362.html > W.r.t. native-inputs, I think native-inputs should propagate > propagated-inputs, but not linked-inputs. Makes sense, doesn't it? > > -- Regards, Bengt Richter