From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id qKhnGlcAqF+mGwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:27:35 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id CDIoFlcAqF9BfQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:27:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F1F394036A for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36488 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kblfK-0004H4-2s for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 09:27:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kblfB-0004Gt-QZ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 09:27:25 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:46319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kblf9-0005Pv-M8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 09:27:25 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 176.185.184.238 Received: from localhost (static-176-185-184-238.axione.abo.bbox.fr [176.185.184.238]) (Authenticated sender: tanguy@bioneland.org) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60FE040008 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 15:27:17 +0100 From: Tanguy Le Carrour To: Guix Subject: Questions regarding Python packaging Message-ID: <20201108142717.lmud5h4gh44vtjc6@melmoth> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.194; envelope-from=tanguy@bioneland.org; helo=relay2-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/08 09:27:18 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.51 X-TUID: pbXyziRzU901 Hi Guix! I have some general questions regarding Python packaging, that are not directly related to the "poetry build system" I'm currently working on. I've just learned, by accident (working on `python-keyring` [1]), that `python setup.py install` was somehow deprecated in favor of tools like `pep517` or `build`. So, I've tried packaging `python-keyring` with those two… `pep517` keeps on trying to download dependencies, which won't work. `build` crashes with "ZIP does not support timestamps before 1980", which, I guess is related to the fact that everything in the store is timestamped to January 1st 1970. Does anyone have a opinion on Python packaging and how it should be done? Any idea how I can circumvent the timestamps problem? Is this fish too big for me?! Any help or advice welcome! Thanks! -- Tanguy [1]: https://github.com/jaraco/keyring/issues/469 Keyring package version is set to 0.0.0, this might be related to the fact that, upstream, they build it with `python -m pep517.build .`, not with `python setup.py install`… but it could also not be related at all! But in order to be sure, I have to try!