From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id jk6zH6sNiF+PEQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:51:55 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id oGdzG6sNiF+QaAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:51:55 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21649400BF for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSyzJ-0000KC-Ol for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 04:51:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54366) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSyzA-0000K2-Ut for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 04:51:44 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:37820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSyz8-00026M-OP; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 04:51:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB541273; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MhxeTb_lLwjz; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jurong (ipbcc36619.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [188.195.102.25]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EED47F6F; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:29 +0200 From: Andreas Enge To: Marius Bakke Subject: Re: Did nmap just become non-free? Message-ID: <20201015085129.GA2559@jurong> References: <87tuuxptfu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mu0phd5n.fsf@debian> <87r1q0pici.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r1q0pici.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: neutral client-ip=185.233.100.1; envelope-from=andreas@enge.fr; helo=hera.aquilenet.fr X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/15 04:51:37 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.49 X-TUID: JbcUmfae+2L5 Hello, On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:12:45AM +0200, Marius Bakke wrote: > Proprietary software companies wishing to use or incorporate Covered > Software within their programs must contact Licensor to purchase a > separate license. Open source developers who wish to incorporate parts > of Covered Software into free software with conflicting licenses may > write Licensor to request a waiver of terms. > > From . > > So a "proprietary software company" cannot use or incorporate nmap > within a program, even if that program is free (as in software)? the formulation is weird, but I am reading this more as "you cannot incorporate this software into a proprietary one", which more or less summarises the difference between the GPL and the LGPL. In guix/licenses.scm, the previous entry for nmap (dating from 2016), instead of providing a link to https://www.gnu.org/licenses/ , gave one to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Nmap , which classifies the license as free, but incompatible with the GPL. It would be nice to get feedback from the FSF on the question, indeed; but I am less pessimistic than you! Andreas