From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id WE8TLEHVgl+QZQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 09:49:53 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id HoHPJ0HVgl9SQwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 09:49:53 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3054E9400BF for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 09:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRXzE-00025W-5T for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 05:49:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRXyw-000259-52 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 05:49:34 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:45280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRXyu-0007uj-8x; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 05:49:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [141.226.15.20]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86AD94027B; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 09:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 12:48:52 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner To: Brendan Tildesley Subject: Re: Call for 1.2 installer testing. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel , Mathieu Othacehe Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-TUID: P8phIlEOmbwi --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:23:30PM +1100, Brendan Tildesley wrote: > Hi, I went through the installer looking for anything negative I could say > about it :) hope there is something helpful here: >=20 >=20 > Unrelated driver bug: installer was just a black screen until I rebooted > with nomodeset:=C2=A0 https://paste.debian.net/1166581/ > Even with nomodeset, I get an error about no UMS supported in radeon, but= it > doesn't stop anything. >=20 >=20 > Languages listed in the language selection are sometimes in English, Rare= ly > in the native language. What's the difference between "Mandarin Chinese" = and > "Chinese"?. I guess this just requires translation data. The names of > languages in their respective languages is something that already exists = in > a million different projects already, can we just copy them in? > Even when choosing Mandarin Chinese, nothing in the installer is in > Mandarin. I guess one also needs to choose the final system language too. > Random thought: could we adapt the installer to use the same sentences fr= om > an existing installer, like the ubuntu one, so that all the translations = can > be copied in for free? All the basic quesions like please choose a passwo= rd > are surely shared between these installers. >=20 > The installer allows choosing the installation USB its self as a target, > which I imagine would result in a disaster? People can shoot themselves in > the foot if they want I guess? Having somewhat recently played with them, I don't remember if Debian allows that, I'm pretty sure NetBSD does. In any case, that's exactly what I would want on an ARM device. > No indication of what buttons one needs to use what: space, enter, tab, n= or > that there are other TTYs with documentation and how to get to them. >=20 > Enter selects and takes you to the next line when its an input box, but it > does not select and take you out of it to the button below if it is the > bottom most checkbox. one must then move to the tab button. >=20 > Down arrow in a checkbox list takes you down to the bottom of the list, b= ut > then it will not jump out to the button below. It does take you from Ok to > Exit though, like left-right, but it wont cross the barriers. >=20 > space doesnt select menu items, but does select and move down checkbox > lists, and selects buttons >=20 > I found my self switching between enter, tab, and space to get through, by > going of intuition and thinking "do what i mean". >=20 > Perhaps Esc should escape when it makes sense. >=20 >=20 > After getting through the install with encrypted root, The install finally > fails trying to install grub with: >=20 > |Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: this GPT partiti= on > label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. > grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for > RAID and LVM install. | >=20 >=20 --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl+C1QEACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1FC6Q/7BHKbZQwDyOl8sM537a9vXjL6Ymve9hnc2c3OBYhsZpuBnonOogMMFhEY 59whExkbXyxfTBgTszb/KsbZCLlq9j7TWJTjFNXvC9rFL77+yKdHIERxJjk/c+hR 0YGEryJXIH2R6TJUSxFXternlMyxrXjbOHTpXWz8OHm/N+LYjCgdKYvmFIelqhbj 1L8GzBGb9PtSWpFGB8FguIIp8rw+t2PQSBDixIJrkJoXZRa4xRN7VZRoDsnXga6X Rp+GfS7BsCznPxTD/hICUrxDj3rhGKDZSgID86TdOzU3rZblu1sgPFwrGLeRgKg2 GGFGHcbudvhs/2Dp/mJdCExYZqWSeZD68s5OEhHA7NzEha/dzjdzZKKoHjXO1GcR ZpepV5vC3z+XlYsCKlpr4JnHI3BA5BvOMOFqitnWK9AclUb+4Ok1xlByVDs07Vfl mV70+XpThXZbqeVwAX7B46hAUYW93xEKm7WUF7kwGEyzHpEIGyEsw06fl8Ep/meC ZI8B2BzpWWv2Ykxv44/agphBXRJakekhD3y19jbcMCttHYWuI3H6ImlOAe/iWGKw u5I58DrDKgsxRjbb434pgPtlWxkIubFFAtrJmUoFdtIBBec5Rt7qsjOMfgiFtvkD +r01+kiMsxjtKff0FNNbRlMYUZsszjOz9y+daPvZmVAD5LHPPPw= =/ozu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8--