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dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.99 X-TUID: wQtAH3JR2XXL Hi, On +2020-09-10 11:19:11 +0200, zimoun wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 10:01, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > chaosmonk skribis: > > > > I don't know what Guix's CI system looks like or how packages are > > > queued for building, but if there is a way to prioritize builds for > > > certain packages, I propose that substitutes for packages like > > > ungoogled-chromium should be built as soon as possible once there is a > > > new version. Other security-critical packages with potentially long > > > build times that come to mind are icecat and linux-libre. > > > Right now we’re trying to improve build throughput in general but your > > proposal makes sense, of course. > > The recent updates of ungoogled-chromium do not mention [security > updates]. Well, I do not know if they are. So the question would be: > what triggers the special security build? > > Well, the work-in-progress [1] about some metrics of Cuirass (Guix's > CI) would provide interesting answers on the concrete feasibility and > future improvements. > > [1] http://issues.guix.gnu.org/32548#1 > > > All the best, > simon > > > Given [1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/04/linux_kernel_flaw_detection/ I would guess that any publicly visible coding meant to trigger special prioritized security builds would feed the process described in [1]. Maybe that's insignificant compared to scraping commit notes and patches etc, idk. HTH :) -- Regards, Bengt Richter