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From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 40273@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#40273: installer: No way to input Latin characters with non-Latin keyboard layouts
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:55:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200331165559.6yfowbvtuoth6vdw@pelzflorian.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rp8v8oi.fsf@gnu.org>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 05:35:41PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I think we can have both Alt-Shift and what Mathieu implemented, no?
> 

Yes, both would be best, what Mathieu implemented is more
discoverable.

> However, note that the installed system won’t have Alt-Shift support,
> and perhaps that is a bigger concern.

Yes.

guix build -S console-setup
sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/X11
cd /usr/share/X11
sudo ln -s /gnu/store/fabcbhjh4g5fmm39fmkjjhiplqwrg0n8-console-setup-1.194-checkout/Keyboard/ckb xkb
ckbcomp ar,fr -variant azerty, -option grp:alt_shift_toggle > ~/test
sudo loadkeys ~/test

works, but I have no idea how to turn that into a keyboard-layout.
I tried setting in /etc/config.scm

 (keyboard-layout
  (keyboard-layout "ar,fr" "azerty" #:options '("grp:alt_shift_toggle")))

but it threw an error.

> OTOH, we’re just using the standard XKB layouts, so if they don’t
> provide Alt-Shift, well, perhaps that’s because this is the way it’s got
> to be?

I did not know back then, but it does work.  In dconf-editor, I can
set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources to ['grp:alt_shift_toggle'].  It
switches between all configured layouts in GNOME.

> Is “grp:alt_shift_toggle” guaranteed to be available, no what what
> ‘layout’ is?
> 
> Also, that means Alt-Shift is enabled for all layouts, not just the
> non-Latin layouts, right?

Yes, with the patch I can toggle any layout to US layout and back.

I believe we would need a map from each layout to whether it should be
QWERTY, AZERTY, QWERTZ …  Or we would just use QWERTY.

What do you think is the right path forward?

Thank you.

Regards,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-28 13:42 bug#40273: installer: No way to input Latin characters with non-Latin keyboard layouts pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-28 19:45 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-03-30 10:44   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-30 11:35     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-03-30 17:11       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-30 17:31         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-31 15:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-31 16:55           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [this message]
2020-04-01 20:33             ` Bengt Richter
2020-04-02  6:24               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-02  9:45             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-03  0:38               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03  1:11                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03 13:31                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03 13:59                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03 15:20                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-03 15:56                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-05 14:03                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-05 20:02                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-05 21:26                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-29 15:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-29 17:16   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-29 17:53     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-03-30 10:39       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-03-30 12:39         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-03-31 15:29         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-01 12:49           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-03-31 15:28       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-01 12:52         ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-04-02 10:25           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-02 11:40             ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-04-06  7:52               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-06 13:14                 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-04-07  9:49                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-07 17:14                     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-04-02 23:27             ` Bengt Richter
2020-04-03 23:17               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-08  7:20                 ` Bengt Richter
2020-04-08  9:42                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-08 21:11                     ` Bengt Richter

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