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From: "J. R. Haigh (re. Guix)" <JRHaigh+ML.GNU.Guix@Runbox.com>
To: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Default autogroup niceness of Guix build daemon
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 03:56:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200128035617.221e6991@jrhaighs-debian-x200> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eevkiyvi.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net>

Hi Giovanni,

At 2020-01-27Mon18:37:53+01, Giovanni Biscuolo sent:
> […]
> Since Debian 9 [uses] systemd, should be possible by configuring a limit in the systemd service unit file [1]; I've never tried but try adding "LimitNICE=19" in the [Service] stanza.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it and it seemed to only affect process niceness, not autogroup niceness. Htop reported process niceness values of 19 on the relevant processes, and I already knew that setting these manually from Htop does not fix the lag. Autogroup niceness still defaults to 0:

$ (for P in $(ps --group="guixbuild" --format="pid="); do F="/proc/$P/autogroup"; echo "$F"; cat "$F"; done)
/proc/26741/autogroup
/autogroup-12141 nice 0

> Documentation on that parameter here:
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html#Process%20Properties

Thank you. There does not seem to be anything on autogroup niceness there, which is apparently deliberate, unfortunately. I also tried ‘LimitNICE=+19’ and ‘CPUSchedulingPolicy=idle’ but neither prevented Guix builds from hogging the CPU. As well as reloading the SystemD configuration, I also tried interrupting the build and starting it again, but the lag returned as soon as the build got going again.
	As a temporary workaround, I tried disabling CFS's autogrouping feature with:

sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/sched_autogroup_enabled <<<0

…but it did not seem to do anything, despite Htop reporting that the relevant processes have a process niceness of 19. It seems that autogrouping is still enabled, despite the attempt to disable it, because the command in my previous email (repeated below) to imperatively change the autogroup niceness (to 19 and then back to 0) continues to have unmistakable effect on interactivity. As all other attempts so far have had no noticeable effect, that command remains to be the only workaround so far:

$ (for P in $(ps --group="guixbuild" --format="pid="); do F="/proc/$P/autogroup"; echo "$F"; cat "$F" && sudo tee "$F" <<<19; done)
/proc/26741/autogroup
/autogroup-12141 nice 0
[sudo] password for JRHaigh: 
19
$ (for P in $(ps --group="guixbuild" --format="pid="); do F="/proc/$P/autogroup"; echo "$F"; cat "$F" && sudo tee "$F" <<<0; done)  ##
/proc/26741/autogroup
/autogroup-12141 nice 19
0
$ (for P in $(ps --group="guixbuild" --format="pid="); do F="/proc/$P/autogroup"; echo "$F"; cat "$F" && sudo tee "$F" <<<19; done)
/proc/26741/autogroup
/autogroup-12141 nice 0
19

These cammands very clearly made my system responsive, laggy, and then responsive again, which was totally unexpected seeing as I had supposedly disabled autogrouping. Given that there are reasons why autogrouping was added and has been default on most/many distros for many years, it would be best if the solution worked with autogrouping enabled anyway, so I don't really want to waste time investigating why autogrouping does not seem to get disabled.
	Are there any modifications that could be made to the Guix daemon to fix this? Seeing as SystemD apparently does not support autogroup niceness, perhaps the next best alternative is to fix the CPUSchedulingPolicy setting. I'm guessing that it only affects the Guix daemon and does not cascade to its builders. Fixing the CPUSchedulingPolicy setting might provide a decent, declarative solution for build deprioritisation that could be used instead of niceness.

Regards,
James R. Haigh.
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      reply	other threads:[~2020-01-28  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-25 22:30 Default autogroup niceness of Guix build daemon J. R. Haigh (re. Guix)
2020-01-27 17:37 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2020-01-28  3:56   ` J. R. Haigh (re. Guix) [this message]

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