From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jan Subject: Re: Maintaining Jami #3 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:55:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20200119165535.0cd52bc0@kompiuter> References: <20200107130521.5a781f53@kompiuter> <20200119005543.0f86942a@interia.pl> <87ftgbu7ik.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1itCvU-0005cm-Uu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:55:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1itCvT-0004Ms-GJ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:55:48 -0500 Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl ([217.74.65.156]:46743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1itCvS-0004Ll-Tz for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:55:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ftgbu7ik.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:20:51 +0100 Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I tested the Jami package we have in upstream Guix: > > - It fails to start on my desktop, it only works on my laptop. > > - The client kept disconnecting. I could send a few text messages > here and there, but most of them didn't go through. > > - I could not give an audio or video call. > > - I can receive text messages perfectly. > > - I can receive calls, but when I click on the "pick up" button, Jami > crashes. > > In general, Jami crashed _a lot_. I wonder if it's upstream or if we > have something wrong with our package. > > Did you have a similar experience? > Does your work fix any of those issues? > Well, generally I started working on Jami, because it never worked for me well - crashes, bugs, issues with UPnP and NAT. That was on Devuan, but on Guix it is like this also. I think bugs are present upstream, but Guix only makes them reproducible :) I also don't know which releases are beta and which are not, I once tried asking, but did not get real answer. Their release naming system is YYYYMMDD and it tells you nothing, I asked them to change it, but they didn't. I just package the latest version available at https://dl.jami.net/ring-release/tarballs/?C=M;O=D and sometimes its okay, but once I couldn't build gnome client on Devuan at all. Jami should not be considered stable for now, at least my package - they make too many changes for it to be stable, without any code freeze. The software was started in 2016 and two years ago it was a deep beta, they need some time to clean this up. Current versions also use beta software - OpenDHT 2.0 is currently at beta stage. Once my changes are merged, I can try updating everything to the latest versions and maybe it'll work, if not we can rename jami to jami-beta and rename it back when it's ready. Jan Wielkiewicz