From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org
Subject: Re: (Really) Free Software future
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 00:21:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016185143.GS23478@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1iKoDi-0004UU-JW@fencepost.gnu.org>
* Alfred M. Szmidt <ams@gnu.org> [2019-10-17 00:10]:
> systemd binaries are dependent on systemd and replaces programs that
> did not have such dependencies. It is creating similar situation as
> vendor lock-in is creating.
>
> That is the case with any system, things depend on things -- what is
> important is not to depend on non-free software.
Analogy is there Alfred. It cannot be ignored.
Why did Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre remove many "free software" packages
from its distribution but for reason that they are somehow infringing
on users' rights?
For example free software project could promote Facebook proprietary
network. Such would probably be removed from Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre
where I find that maintainers do take care of users' freedom.
In similar manner systemd is is making users be controlled by systemd
maintainers.
Jean
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2019-10-10 11:39 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
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2019-10-10 16:18 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Stefan Huchler
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2019-10-14 10:07 ` (Really) Free Software future Was: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, Svante Signell
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2019-10-14 16:13 ` Paul Smith
2019-10-14 16:52 ` (Really) Free Software future Svante Signell
2019-10-14 18:16 ` Paul Smith
2019-10-14 18:32 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 18:59 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-14 19:18 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:35 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-14 20:49 ` Stefan Huchler
2019-10-19 23:00 ` (Really) Free Software future in the light of systemd Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-21 17:58 ` Jean Louis
2019-12-15 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 19:11 ` (Really) Free Software future Paul Smith
2019-10-14 19:22 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:11 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 2:41 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 19:56 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-15 20:31 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 6:00 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 18:51 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2019-10-18 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 18:42 ` Jesse Gibbons
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