From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20191012113715.GD14432@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <20191009065352.GU8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <17462587.SsIznebPcY@pc-713> <20191010102435.GF27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <4828739.2SfjHLgCXR@pc-713> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iJFtf-0001hu-N9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 07:49:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJFi6-0005ik-SI for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 07:37:24 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4828739.2SfjHLgCXR@pc-713> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Alexandre =?utf-8?B?RnJhbsOnb2lz?= Garreau Cc: Info GNU , help-guix@gnu.org, Libreplanet Discuss , guix-devel@gnu.org, GNU System Discuss * Alexandre Fran=C3=A7ois Garreau [2019-10-11 13= :53]: > Le jeudi 10 octobre 2019 12:24:35 CEST, vous avez =C3=A9crit : > > * Alexandre Fran=C3=A7ois Garreau [2019-10-1= 0 11:55]: > > > > I don't know how to defend anybody in public by silencing talk. > > >=20 > > > Answering whenever appropriate, currently only when asked to, and k= eep > > > going this way. > >=20 > > I have no such mentality. > >=20 > > I am doing for RMS what I would like that other people do for > > me. Stand up and raise the voice. Not wait. That is not me. >=20 > Maybe if you were in the position of rms you would think differently, b= etter=20 > acknowledging the different tensions et pressions out there. Dear Alexandre, I am sorry, I will take this to the mailing list, not let it be private. I do not know what RMS thinks, what I know is that GNU project shall remain apolitical. The only politics that GNU project shall support is "(1) that users should have control of their own computing (for instance, through free software) and (2) supporting basic human rights in computing. We don't require you as a contributor to agree with these two points, but you do need to accept that our decisions will be based on them." See: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html RMS has upheld the above points, and was always apolitical in regards to free software. He knows well that free software can be used to prevent abortions, and to make abortions. For example it could be possible to make an automatic robotic hand that does abortion() function without presence of doctors, and such could be done with free software. I know it because I have read freedom zero: "The freedom to run the program as you wish" -- so it means AS YOU WISH. To kill, or prevent killing, to abort or not about() I don't care. I am distributing free software and truly giving that freedom to others. GNU project shall remain apolitical for anything but free software. Thus feminist views of Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and Andy Wingo and other feminists that have published their defaming and libelous statement on: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ are not welcome on GNU project. They are preventing contra-feminists to join the Guix project, GNU project, due to their political views. GNU project is welcoming feminists, and contra-feminists, but for as long as the GNU project is not abused to spread out their propaganda. And nobody is preventing them to publish their opinions outside of GNU project. If they have balls for that. Jean Louis