From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Ricardo, here is kind question to provide facts on your statements about RMS Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 06:30:58 +0200 Message-ID: <20191010043058.GA20430@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <87a8bp6uit.fsf@elephly.net> <20191009062444.GM8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <7a4eb1d00fc6df962870a948f3304310700c0ff5.camel@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIQ6V-0005WD-Oj for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:31:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIQ6U-0006RV-Gs for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:31:07 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7a4eb1d00fc6df962870a948f3304310700c0ff5.camel@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Svante Signell Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman * Svante Signell [2019-10-09 13:18]: > Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement. > cc: RMS >=20 > I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such > a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially > in the context of the recent defaming campaign on him personally on > social media, making him to leave FSF and MIT. What do you really want > to achieve?? They want take over, obviously, so they said. But I don't trust them so I do not know how they wish to achieve " The GNU Project we want to build is one that everyone can trust to defend their freedom." Best way is to go away from GNU project, and make their own GNG project, split, fork, sect, call it what you wish. They are indirectly asking for money. GNU project is about money, fame, authority, position. Each developer has certain privileges as "GNU maintainer", they are dwelling in their powers, and in their own organizations and companies they are getting goodwill as GNU maintainers. That is their purpose and their reason. Not the community. > If you have something serious to report against RMS, do so publicly and > address RMS himself, for him to respond. Or address him directly, not > by stating things in a blog nobody could ever respond to. Hundreds of people already responded on other pages, what they are writing is not nice at all. Jean I am asking those people who are pretending to represent all of the GNU project and who are defaming and slandering RMS[1] to step down and resign, do your software hacking somewhere else, you do not deserve funding that RMS is giving you. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s, Ricardo Wurmus, Matt Lee, Andreas Enge, Samuel Thibault, Carlos O'Donell, Andy Wingo, Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez Hermoso, Mark Wielaard, Ian Lance Taylor, Werner Koch, Daiki Ueno, Christopher Lemmer Webber, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, John Wiegley, Tom Tromey, Jeff Law, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Joshua Gay, Ian Jackson, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, Andrej Shadura, Zack Weinberg, John W. Eaton, RESIGN and step down from GNU projects, disassociate yourself, find another house for your excessive and uncrontollable fear of the free speech. Facts: https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/09/30/in-defense-of-richard-stallman/ https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/