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From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 37413@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#37413] [PATCH 0/9] Channel news distribution mechanism
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:41:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190917174102.edmbljhpte5rklsr@pelzflorian.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ef0fkknq.fsf@gnu.org>

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 05:27:37PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> As you’ve seen, the format I proposed does not rely on PO files and
> gettext at all:
> 
>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/37413#5
>

I did not read carefully before, but even with this format, a Guile
script could turn it into a POT file with multiple entries and another
Guile script could add translations from a PO file into such a news
file.




> Are you suggesting that it should rely on PO files?


Yes.  The format need not be changed.  PO file conversion scripts can
be added later, but should be a goal.




> We can discuss it,
> but that would be a significant change with technical challenges
> compared to what I propose.
> (Also keep in mind that the news mechanism
> aims to be available to third-party channels as well.)
> 

3rd parties would not need to use the PO file conversion scripts.



> Also, why do you mention “the package info”?  There’s no notion of a
> package here, so I wonder if there’s a misunderstanding.
> 

Channels contain packages whose summaries and descriptions need
translations as well, or do I misunderstand?  Admittedly, it will take
some time until guix-packages is translated, but it should be a goal.




> >> and (2) I think this is outside
> >> the scope of the TP.
> >> 
> >> Does that clarify?
> >> 
> >> Ludo’.
> >
> > I do not see why such translation should be outside the scope of the
> > TP?  I can only think of the speed of POT file acceptance and PO file
> > translators.
> 
> Speed would be a problem (POT files have to be manually accepted by
> Benno.)  But also, like I wrote earlier, (1) the TP is geared towards
> translating releases of software packages, and (2) and those news
> snippets could arrive anytime, not in sync with a “release.”
>
> > I am unsure if setting up Guix’ own translation team would attract
> > quicker translators than relying on the TP.
> 
> Yeah, having a real translation team is best, but in this case I don’t
> see how that could work.
> 
> Julien mentioned some time ago that we could run our own Pootle
> instance.  Maybe that could be helpful in this case.
> 
> Thank you,
> Ludo’.

I do not know what Benno thinks about this.  I would prefer this to be
handled by some Translation Project eventually.

Regards,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-17 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-15 22:10 [bug#37413] [PATCH 0/9] Channel news distribution mechanism Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:20 ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 1/9] pull: '--news' shows the list of channels added or removed Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:20   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 2/9] git: 'update-cached-checkout' avoids network access when unnecessary Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 3/9] git: Add 'commit-difference' Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 4/9] channels: Add support for a news file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 5/9] ui: Add 'current-message-language' Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 6/9] pull: Display channel news Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 7/9] pull: '-l' displays " Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 8/9] Add '.guix-channel' file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-15 22:21   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 9/9] DRAFT etc: Add channel news file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-16  9:31 ` [bug#37413] [PATCH 0/9] Channel news distribution mechanism Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-16 12:59   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-16 13:16     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-16 15:10       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-16 17:16         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-16 21:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-16 21:49   ` Julien Lepiller
2019-09-16 22:52     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-17 12:44       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-17 13:33         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-17 13:39           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-17 14:28             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-17 15:27               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-17 17:41                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [this message]
2019-09-17 18:21                   ` Julien Lepiller
2019-09-17 19:44                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-17 22:02                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-18 10:02                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-18 11:49                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-18 12:33                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-18  9:12                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12   ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 00/11] " Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 01/11] pull: '--news' shows the list of channels added or removed Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 02/11] git: 'update-cached-checkout' avoids network access when unnecessary Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 03/11] git: Add 'commit-difference' Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 04/11] channels: Add support for a news file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 05/11] channels: Allow news entries to refer to a tag Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 06/11] ui: Add 'current-message-language' Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 07/11] pull: Display channel news Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 08/11] pull: '-l' displays " Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 09/11] pull: Display news titles directly upon 'pull' Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 10/11] Add '.guix-channel' file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-21 21:12     ` [bug#37413] [PATCH v2 11/11] DRAFT etc: Add channel news file Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-22 11:14       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-09-23  9:13         ` Ludovic Courtès

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