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From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
To: gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium.
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:43:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190218024324.38ae7178@parabola> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f82e937f-1d89-1237-c5b4-b5f152f055a7@riseup.net>

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> So... the same thing as Linux.

yes, much the same situation as linux, but with the very important
difference, that we have people like the good folks at linux-libre who
are constantly watching linux for new undesirables entering it, and
those people are actively and routinely removing anything non-free - no
such thing is happening for web browsers - no one is even watching


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> Are you saying, then, that we are specifically aware of proprietary
> software in ungoogled-chromium? Have stated what that proprietary
> software is?

i am saying that i am not aware of anyone making any such accusations
of non-free software being in that browser - but we are painfully aware
of the accusations against chromium, and it is sitting "on the table";
so we are very unfortunately compelled to address it - thats all

i am not personally wedded to any preference on *how* we should address
it; but we should address it

if ever someone raises the same concern with firefox, then we will be
compelled to address that, when or if that unfortunate day comes;
because that is exactly what the FSDG is for: to determine which
software is fit for free distribution, and which is not


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> Why? Are you opposed to individual distros making their own individual
> decisions?

not all "decisions" - only the most crucial and obvious decisions like
this one, regarding exactly what is "free software" and what is not
"free software" - because if we can not agree on what is and is not
"free software", then the term "free software" is meaningless, and
hence a FSDG-free distro is a pointless distinction

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 19:58 [bug#28004] Chromium Marius Bakke
2017-08-07 20:23 ` ng0
2017-08-07 21:16   ` Marius Bakke
2017-08-08  5:53     ` ng0
2017-08-08 13:18     ` ng0
2017-08-08 14:22       ` ng0
2017-08-08 15:44         ` ng0
2017-08-08 18:59           ` ng0
2017-08-08 19:51           ` Leo Famulari
2017-08-08 20:46             ` ng0
2017-08-10  5:31 ` Efraim Flashner
2017-08-31  7:36   ` ng0
2017-10-10 13:19 ` ng0
2017-10-11 19:52   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-12 19:56     ` Leo Famulari
2017-10-12 20:28       ` ng0
2017-10-13  6:51       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-18 22:41         ` Marius Bakke
2017-10-19  5:48           ` ng0
2017-10-24 21:11           ` Marius Bakke
2017-11-05 23:52           ` Marius Bakke
2017-11-10 11:33             ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-01-04 19:16           ` ng0
2018-01-08 21:56             ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-08 23:20               ` ng0
2018-01-08 23:40                 ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-12  0:09                 ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-13 19:02                   ` ng0
2018-01-13 19:13                     ` ng0
2018-01-14 12:10                       ` ng0
2018-01-16 14:18                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-16 19:01                     ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-16 19:09                       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-16 19:22                         ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-16 20:41                           ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-17  8:53                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-17 14:55                       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-02-26 18:18                         ` Marius Bakke
2018-02-26 20:01                           ` ng0
2018-02-26 20:06                             ` Marius Bakke
2018-02-26 20:34                               ` ng0
2018-02-26 22:41                               ` Björn Höfling
2018-02-27 21:57                                 ` ng0
2018-02-28 17:38                                 ` Marius Bakke
2018-02-28 18:09                                   ` Björn Höfling
2018-03-16 17:30                                   ` ng0
2018-03-16 17:45                                     ` Marius Bakke
2018-03-16 17:52                                       ` ng0
2018-07-25  8:08                                         ` ng0
2018-08-05 13:04                                           ` Marius Bakke
2018-08-05 16:18                                             ` ng0
2018-08-05 18:25                                               ` Marius Bakke
2018-08-05 20:32                                                 ` ng0
2018-08-05 23:58                                                   ` ng0
2018-08-30 13:25                                                     ` ng0
2018-08-06  8:22                                             ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-08-30  6:04                                               ` Amirouche Boubekki
2018-03-16 19:01                                       ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-03-16 19:34                                         ` ng0
2018-03-16 21:20                                           ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-02-27 22:17                               ` ng0
2018-02-28 17:14                                 ` Marius Bakke
2018-02-27  2:00                           ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-02-28  8:17                             ` ng0
2018-02-28 17:28                             ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-16 20:04                     ` ng0
2018-01-09  6:58               ` ng0
2018-01-12  0:03                 ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-12  9:38                   ` ng0
2018-02-26 18:19 ` [bug#28004] [PATCH] gnu: Add chromium Marius Bakke
2018-04-13 19:10 ` [bug#28004] Chromium 65 Marius Bakke
2018-04-17 19:10   ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-04-24 17:05   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-04-24 18:08     ` [bug#28004] Chromium 66 + status update Marius Bakke
2018-04-24 18:45       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-04-24 18:48         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-04-24 18:46       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-04-24 19:30         ` Marius Bakke
2018-04-25 17:00           ` Leo Famulari
2018-04-25 17:02           ` Leo Famulari
2018-05-03 17:49       ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03 17:58         ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-04 12:10         ` Marius Bakke
2018-05-04 13:02           ` Nils Gillmann
2018-08-29 23:31 ` [bug#28004] (no subject) Amirouche Boubekki
2018-09-02  4:37 ` [bug#28004] Chromium FSDG requirements Mark H Weaver
2018-09-02 13:16   ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-02 19:20 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium Marius Bakke
2019-02-03 18:16   ` Joshua Branson
2019-02-04  4:52     ` bill-auger
2019-02-04  5:52       ` brettg
2019-02-04  7:46       ` Ineiev
2019-02-04 10:56         ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 14:43           ` Jean Louis
2019-02-04 12:26       ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Julie Marchant
2019-02-04 15:03         ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 13:46       ` [bug#28004] " Leo Famulari
2019-02-04 14:47         ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 22:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-04 22:34         ` [bug#28004] " Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-06 21:04         ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-07 23:52         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-07 23:59           ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16  8:00           ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 10:25             ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 14:18               ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16 15:37                 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Adam Van Ymeren
2019-02-16 19:47                 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-16 20:01                   ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 20:06                     ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-17  1:39                       ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 22:33                         ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-18 12:05                           ` bill-auger
2019-02-18 12:15                             ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-02-18 13:44                             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-02-18 19:22                               ` Simon Nielsen
2019-02-19 20:45                                 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " bill-auger
     [not found]                         ` <671b6c83-0ed0-84eb-4cc5-b6a8fd14cb90@fsf.org>
     [not found]                           ` <20190220010728.3426713f@parabola>
     [not found]                             ` <87r2c2ms4l.fsf@fastmail.com>
     [not found]                               ` <20190220114742.0d2034fb@parabola>
     [not found]                                 ` <87ftsim7qc.fsf@fastmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <1740db7c-29c4-137e-85b7-33c9a6b71b16@hyperbola.info>
2019-02-21  8:02                                     ` bug#34605: ungoogled-chromium: proprietary codecs enabled? Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-21 15:50                                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-11-14  1:29                                         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-02-16 20:07                   ` [GNU-linux-libre] [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium Alex Griffin
2019-02-17  1:49                     ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  1:37                 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  2:30                   ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17  2:42                     ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  4:19                       ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17  7:43                         ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 14:06                           ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-18  7:43                             ` bill-auger [this message]
2019-02-17 20:55                 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-16 11:16             ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-16 12:55               ` ng0
2019-02-16 13:10                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-18 13:47               ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2019-02-16 15:10             ` znavko
2019-02-16 15:50             ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 16:20               ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Amin Bandali
2019-02-16 16:33                 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 19:27                   ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-17  2:20                   ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 16:34               ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-02-16 16:54                 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-17  3:38                 ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 18:56             ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-19 16:28               ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-09 14:04       ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-03 20:21   ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-05  5:22   ` [bug#28004] " swedebugia
2019-02-05  5:22     ` swedebugia
2019-02-12 15:58   ` [PATCH v2] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-18 22:43     ` [bug#28004] " Marius Bakke

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