From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alex Griffin Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20181029134326.GA2564@antares.lan> References: <20181024010640.GA14776@antares.lan> <87y3an8xxe.fsf@gnu.org> <20181024142115.GA2088@antares.lan> <20181026233648.0fd1ea35@merlin.browniehive.net> <1540593452.395052.1556179352.51508E84@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20181028194258.773fa475@merlin.browniehive.net> <20181028195054.GA10708@antares.lan> <20181029095913.25aa3829@alma-ubu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH7pX-0008VS-3v for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:43:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH7pS-0001Yn-Tu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:43:43 -0400 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]:48629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH7pR-0001P5-0j for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:43:38 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Thorsten Wilms Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:49:23AM +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > bullshit. I pledged nothing. More pragmatic and truthful would be: > > "The project owners expect everyone who contributes to [...] Exactly. I would actually have less of a problem with it if it were presented as moderation rules come down from on high. They still might be bad rules that I disagreed with (or not), but at least there would only be a problem if I broke a rule. When the CoC actually purports to speak for me, then there's a problem even if no one ever invokes the CoC. I view the Contributor Covenant in particular as pushing identity politics on the free software world and manufacturing consent for that agenda. That's why the website proudly lists all the projects that agreed to it, and why they go push newer projects to adopt it. I mean don't you think it's odd that the net effect of CoCs is to cause drama and divide communities, when they're supposed to be about welcoming everybody? Even if you can't understand why it shakes out like that, that alone should throw up red flags in your mind. -- Alex Griffin