* [bug#32482] [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning.
@ 2018-08-20 15:42 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-08-23 14:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-11 19:17 ` bug#32482: " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2018-08-20 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 32482
* gnu/packages/backup.scm (obnam)[synopsis, description]: Note its
retirement.
---
Guix!
A bit silly since the package fails to build anyway[0]. I'm not capable nor willing to fix it. Debian's (actually, upstream's) ‘solution’ was simply to remove the package[0].
I'd rather follow their example if nobody steps up to fix it, but Leo[1] made a good point about removing backup tools that may be someone's only link to the past.
An alternative is to add a prominent deprecation warning to our obnam package. Something like this. There's no clear successor or alternative to use with DEPRECATED-PACKAGE.
Let me know if and what you think,
T G-R
[0]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877159
[1]: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=32303#13
gnu/packages/backup.scm | 15 +++++++++------
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/gnu/packages/backup.scm b/gnu/packages/backup.scm
index 754dfa1a4..978505914 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/backup.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/backup.scm
@@ -749,12 +749,15 @@ NTFS volumes using @code{ntfs-3g}, preserving NTFS-specific attributes.")
("python2-pep8" ,python2-pep8)
("python2-pylint" ,python2-pylint)))
(home-page "https://obnam.org/")
- (synopsis "Easy and secure backup program")
- (description "Obnam is an easy, secure backup program. Features
-include snapshot backups, data de-duplication and encrypted backups
-using GnuPG. Backups can be stored on local hard disks, or online via
-the SSH SFTP protocol. The backup server, if used, does not require
-any special software, on top of SSH.")
+ (synopsis "Retired backup program")
+ (description
+ "Warning: @uref{https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2017/08/13/retiring_obnam/,
+the Obnam project is retired}. You should use another backup solution instead.
+
+Obnam was an easy, secure backup program. Features included snapshot backups,
+data de-duplication and encrypted backups using GnuPG. Backups can be stored on
+local hard disks, or online via the SSH SFTP protocol. The backup server, if
+used, does not require any special software, on top of SSH.")
(license license:gpl3+)))
(define-public dirvish
--
2.18.0
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* [bug#32482] [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning.
2018-08-20 15:42 [bug#32482] [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
@ 2018-08-23 14:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 21:38 ` Leo Famulari
2018-09-11 19:17 ` bug#32482: " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-08-23 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: 32482
Hi!
(+Cc: Leo.)
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis:
> * gnu/packages/backup.scm (obnam)[synopsis, description]: Note its
> retirement.
> ---
>
> Guix!
>
> A bit silly since the package fails to build anyway[0]. I'm not capable nor willing to fix it. Debian's (actually, upstream's) ‘solution’ was simply to remove the package[0].
>
> I'd rather follow their example if nobody steps up to fix it, but Leo[1] made a good point about removing backup tools that may be someone's only link to the past.
The patch LGTM!
> An alternative is to add a prominent deprecation warning to our obnam package. Something like this. There's no clear successor or alternative to use with DEPRECATED-PACKAGE.
If this sort of problem occurs frequently enough, we could add a special
“obsolete” or “insecure” package property and have the UI print a
warning when attempting to install such a package.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* [bug#32482] [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning.
2018-08-23 14:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-08-29 21:38 ` Leo Famulari
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Leo Famulari @ 2018-08-29 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 32482
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 04:55:23PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi!
>
> (+Cc: Leo.)
>
> Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis:
>
> > * gnu/packages/backup.scm (obnam)[synopsis, description]: Note its
> > retirement.
> > ---
> >
> > Guix!
> >
> > A bit silly since the package fails to build anyway[0]. I'm not capable nor willing to fix it. Debian's (actually, upstream's) ‘solution’ was simply to remove the package[0].
> >
> > I'd rather follow their example if nobody steps up to fix it, but Leo[1] made a good point about removing backup tools that may be someone's only link to the past.
>
> The patch LGTM!
+1
> > An alternative is to add a prominent deprecation warning to our obnam package. Something like this. There's no clear successor or alternative to use with DEPRECATED-PACKAGE.
>
> If this sort of problem occurs frequently enough, we could add a special
> “obsolete” or “insecure” package property and have the UI print a
> warning when attempting to install such a package.
Yes, it could be helpful. Although, the question of what is "obsolete"
and "insecure" is relative and subjective ;)
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* bug#32482: [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning.
2018-08-20 15:42 [bug#32482] [PATCH] gnu: obnam: Add deprecation warning Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-08-23 14:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-09-11 19:17 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2018-09-11 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 32482-done
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
> * gnu/packages/backup.scm (obnam)[synopsis, description]: Note
> its
> retirement.
Pushed as a93de1ae9efbed3270967eda59b1dd1078c0213b.
Kind regards,
T G-R
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