From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nils Gillmann Subject: Re: Librem Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 16:58:49 +0000 Message-ID: <20180509165849.q3on4zcv3nxtc74h@abyayala> References: <87r2p2xudf.fsf@gmail.com> <87po3slnvb.fsf@gmail.com> <87zi1j2myo.fsf@gmail.com> <87vac5utga.fsf@gmail.com> <87po2dqj34.fsf@gmail.com> <87k1sd1hww.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60327) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGSQ5-0005xi-Fi for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 12:58:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGSQ4-0001Lc-Bn for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 12:58:25 -0400 Received: from conspiracy.of.n0.is ([2a01:4f8:1c0c:7ad0::1]:53194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGSQ4-0001I6-07 for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 12:58:24 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k1sd1hww.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Chris Marusich Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, Joshua Branson Chris Marusich transcribed 2.5K bytes: > Pierre Neidhardt writes: > > >> https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/ > > > > Nice! I was originally referring to laptops only, but since I was > > planning to look into desktops soon, so thanks for chiming in! > > > > It's waaaaaay too expensive for my needs though ;) Would you also happen > > to know of libre desktop hardware in the 500-1000€ price range? > > It's true that the TALOSII costs more than your average consumer-grade > desktop. However, I like the fact that they seem to put a strong focus > on empowering the desktop owner to control their own computing by > freeing as much software as possible. For example, they use OpenBMC, > and a lot of the firmware used in the system is apparently available as > free software: > > https://git.raptorcs.com/git/ > > But it is expensive. :-) I haven't bought one yet, myself. Depending > on your needs, I've heard you can put together a pretty good Libreboot > desktop system for between 500 and 1000 US dollars, if you order and > assemble the parts yourself. The coreboot systems I have, and the small amount of the libreboot systems, range between 100 Euro and 250 Euro (excluding the ~100? Euro I paid for the flashing equipment). > For me, "pretty good" means about 16 GiB > of RAM, 8 CPU cores, and an SSD, since I'm mainly interested in generic > development work (need those cores to build stuff in parallel!). But I > haven't tried assembling my own Libreboot desktop yet, either. I would > love to hear more from people who have! > > For a Libreboot-enabled system, you might also consider asking the > Libreboot IRC chat room for help (last I heard, their email list was not > working). I'm sure they can make some good recommendations! > > -- > Chris