From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nils Gillmann Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 05:00:20 +0000 Message-ID: <20180503050020.ljaqgrop6uwy24op@abyayala> References: <87y3h1g42q.fsf@lassieur.org> <87wowlg3vu.fsf@lassieur.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fE6LV-0001xw-JZ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2018 00:59:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fE6LU-0000Dd-Kd for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2018 00:59:57 -0400 Received: from conspiracy.of.n0.is ([2a01:4f8:1c0c:7ad0::1]:50224) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fE6LU-0000DE-8v for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2018 00:59:56 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wowlg3vu.fsf@lassieur.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Lassieur Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Clément Lassieur transcribed 1.5K bytes: > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox > > package that inherits Icecat (and thus is very close to Icecat). For > > example I can't even pay with my credit card with icecat-52-guix, > > whereas I can with firefox-home-52-guix. (It looks like a javascript > > issue.) Also, lots of videos don't work, and it's difficult to know > > whether it's because of technical issues or because of DRM. > > > > This may discourage people from using GuixSD. > > > > My understanding is that Icecat exists because of two reasons: > > 1. a trademark/logo issue, > > 2. the need to remove non-free code from Firefox. > > > > But it does more: > > 3. it only packages the stables versions of Firefox, > > 4. it adds add-ons, > > 5. it prevents the installation of non-free plugins, > > 6. probably other things that I'm not aware of. > > > > It seems to me that the trademark/logo issue and the non-free code > > removal could be dealt with at the Guix packaging level. It's probably > > just a huge bunch of substitutes to do. The package would be huge, but > > at least we would have control on it. > > > > That would remove a layer of complexity, and probably reduce bugs (that > > come from that layer). That would also allow us to have a recent > > version of Firefox. > > > > And it would be way better than everyone (I exaggerate a bit) having his > their ^ > > home-made non-maintened full-of-security-issues Firefox. > > > > What do you think? > > Clément > > Among other things I've been working on Firefox. Not exactly with the intention of a free one per se, but at least to have it. I've been updating Aurora Nightly for a while. Thing is, it get's tricky after 54.0 due to mandatory Rust. I wanted to give the Rust problem another try soon, if you are serious about this, I can try and summarize it or provide snippets. You'l be able to find the package definitions, but they do not apply to Guix package structure (also I need to relicense it. whatever you'll find AGPL3 licensed is in fact GPL3 licensed now. I am just too busy to fix the headers, will do it on the weekend).. if I have commited the recent changes to the wip version. I seem to remember that the gnuzilla mailinglist did drop some hints about the core issue I had with rust.