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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Ricardo Wurmus <ricardo.wurmus@mdc-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [Orchestration][RFC] A simple draft for channels
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:02:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180320070224.GA20987@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180319120400.GA13807@thebird.nl>

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:04:00PM +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> Maybe we should start thinking that a channel is simply an
> architecture dependent Guix 'pack' of substitutes that includes the
> pre-built Guix git repo. When deployed in a container we can inject
> the keys. When this works we can design a pack repository, making the
> channels searchable.

Continuing my line of thought: a binary channel in my mind is now a
compiled Guix package tree with Guix and possible adaptations (say a
special package for Ruby). In other words, a special (timed) version
of Guix sitting in /gnu/store/*named-guix-channel/bin/guix. Installing
it I would simply create my own profile

    guix -i named-guix-channel -p ~/opt/named-guix-channel

and use that to install new software using the running guix-daemon. I.e.

    ~/opt/named-guix-channel/bin/guix package -A

or maybe better

    ~/opt/named-guix-channel/bin/named-guix-channel package -A

so it can actually live in a shared profile and pick up its own
substitute server. Anyone can create a channel and they can even live
on trunk as packages:

    guix package -i bio-ruby-guix-channel
    (admin add key)
    bio-ruby-guix-channel package -i bio-ruby

Simple but effective. Wouldn't that be cool?

To add a channel we may need some mechanism - possibly something like
loading a .scm on the command line which fetches the guix-channel
binary from a substitute server. The more flexible the better. So

    (admin add key)
    guix channel -i URI/my-channel.scm
    (which does a 'guix package -i my-bio-ruby-guix-channel')
    my-ruby-guix-channel package -i bio-ruby

a version would be

    (admin add key)
    guix channel -i URI/my-channel.scm GITHASH/GITTAG
    (which does a 'guix package -i my-bio-ruby-guix-channel')
    my-ruby-guix-channel package -i bio-ruby

We can start without the 'guix channel' bit. Early channel adopters
can work from a compiled source tree.

The only immediate adaptation to Guix required is that named-guix-channel
can pick up its own compiled package definitions and we have
fast binary-channels.

Right?

Pj.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19  8:24 [RFC] A simple draft for channels Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-19  8:55 ` Jelle Licht
2018-01-19 11:30 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-19 13:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-19 13:56   ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-23  6:38     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-23  8:54       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-23 23:01         ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-01-23 16:03   ` myglc2
2018-01-23 16:50     ` ng0
2018-01-24  5:44       ` myglc2
2018-01-24 12:33         ` ng0
2018-01-24 15:04           ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-01-23 20:39     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-23 20:37   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-24 12:01     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-20  5:45 ` 宋文武
2018-01-24 14:08   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-24 17:55     ` myglc2
2018-01-24 18:20       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-26 17:23         ` myglc2
2018-01-26 18:53           ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-03-19 12:46         ` ng0
2018-01-27 12:10 ` Chris Marusich
2018-03-19 12:04   ` [Orchestration][RFC] " Pjotr Prins
2018-03-19 12:36     ` ng0
2018-03-19 18:21     ` myglc2
2018-03-19 18:31       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-19 20:18         ` myglc2
2018-03-19 20:29           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-20  7:02     ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2018-03-20 10:41       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-20 13:10         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-20 13:41           ` Ricardo Wurmus

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